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Thursday Night Random Thread:What Makes The Dolphins A Superbowl Team Edition

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I was reading some comments on Twitter today that got me thinking. What does this team, our Miami Dolphins need to take that leap to become a Superbowl caliber team. I understand that it takes a lot of talent combined with a ton of luck to get to the Superbowl but at the beginning of the season there are those teams that you just know have what it takes to get to the next level (playoffs) and possibly even win a title.

Even those in the know or the so called experts get it wrong to some degree here and there but there are certain traits that a Superbowl team has in each era. I think we can for the most part agree that in this era much of it centers around the QB and the level of play that you get from that position. With an elite QB you always have a shot if all the other things that can go right do go right. Even going back to the days of Marino, especially in his prime, we as fans could go in to each new season with the sense that we had a shot. A real, legit shot.

On the other side of the ball the ability to get pressure on said QB's might be close to if not equally important. Once you get to the playoffs all the QB's are good, very good if not elite. These are the type of QB's that can of course shred any defense that can not exhibit the ability to mount a consistent pass rush. This of course then leads in to the debate about offensive line play.

Star-divide


I for one place a high value on building a top offensive line but not a debate that I wish to cultivate here. Instead my question is which pieces if any do you believe we need to get to the next level? Is it a QB? Is it OL help? Is it another top pass rusher? How about and upgrade at Safety? All of the above or a combination? Or like some, are you pretty much happy with what we have and think it was all Tony's fault? Let us know in the poll and then tell us why below.

Poll
What moves do you think need to be made to make the Dolphins a Superbowl caliber team?
Add an elite QB/QB prospect
54 votes
Stick with what we have and let Moore develop
11 votes
Stick with what we have, resign Henne and let him continue to develop some more
1 votes
Add a stud pass rusher
1 votes
Add to while improving the OL
2 votes
Add help to the secondary at Safety
0 votes
QB+Pass Rusher
13 votes
QB+Pass Rusher+OL help
68 votes
QB+Pass Rusher+OL help+Safety
109 votes
QB+OL help
10 votes
QB+OL help+Safety
15 votes
QB+Safety
3 votes
QB+Safety+Pass Rusher
8 votes
Pass Rusher+OL help
7 votes
Pass Rusher+OL help+Safety
7 votes
OL help+Safety
0 votes
Safety+Pass Rusher
2 votes
Some other option that I have not thought of (please explain below)
3 votes

314 votes | Poll has closed

1 recs  |  240 comments

Comments

I chose QB+Pass Rusher+OL help.

It all starts with and centers around an elite quarterback. We have to go and get that elite QB first and foremost. That will make us contenders. The rest makes us superbowl bound, Draft Riley Reiff with the 8/9 spot to protect Peyton Manning. Then draft either Tannehill in the second round or Osweiler in the third round to learn behind Manning. If we go with Osweiler in the third (which I am leaning towards since he has the strongest arm in the draft, but is very raw so could use a few years behind Manning) then sign a sick TE in the second. Fleener if he’s available when we pick. Sign Robert Mathis as our pass rusher.

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QB, Safety, Pass rush

People, tell me you didnt watch the superbowl and think you yourself, if we have a guy like, oh lets say, Peyton Manning, that the fins couldnt compete with both of those teams. New England’s defense let them down yet again, and without Brady (elite QB) they don’t win 6 games. The Giants back end is poor, and their “vaunted” front 7 is a little overrated in my opinion. To win in this league, it starts under center. If Peyton comes here, the Dolphins are immediately 3-4 wins better, and barring another 0-7 start, a playoff team. This team has the playmakers, O-Line (minus maybe another guard) and defense to make a run at a title in the next couple years.

Hello ladies and gents...and tex...
Hello people. Wake up :)
I was not sleeping. Only resting my eyes.
That's better than I've done this week
Hey welcome back brother and congrats!
Thank you
Are there any pics on on FB yet?
Not yet

I’m still filling up the camera.

LOL I bet.

Thank God for digital. So much cheaper then when mine was born and we were still using film. Roll after roll of film.

back when dinosaurs roamed the earth , lol
congrats duke, good to hear
Well he's only 16 so not quite that long ago.
We've filled up two disposable camera plus digital cameras and phones
More memory cards or at least larger ones.
I've got about 100 pics so far
get all you can, cuz they grow so fast.

wish I had more of mine when they were younger

I think we are going to do a running picture diary

showing her development every month.

checking your eyelids for cracks?
Hola
Hey bro. Its mighty slow tonight.
Yeah, it is.

I have a 1,300 word article going up in 30 minutes. Maybe CP10 can liven up the place.

I think the fan post thing really slowed our traffic. People are creatures of habit and it totally threw people off.
It did.

We’ll see if it picks back up now that things seem to be running smoothly.

it'll probably take a while

just because if traffic is down, then less people see that the fan posts are back up, so less people will return…

I'm thinking we need at lead three hall of fame caliber players at each position and the greatest coach of all time

i think that should solve a couple of our problems…

Dude...

Be serious.

You know 2 at every position would be fine.

Success at Success at Success

Kobe will kill you now.
LOL He's Kobe. He does not kill you. He has you killed.
That ref is lucky his heart didn't stop right then.

Kobe don’t care.

He don't give a shit.
Honey Badger?
Yep.
Ewww...

That’s gross.

See now I am going to imagine that your voice is just like that guys in the video.
rofl./

Have you seen him?

Oh my. He stole one of the Kardasian sisters sun glasses.
hey guys, I personally think we just need a few pieces to e a super bowl team

Unfortunately, the pieces we need are the hardest to find. First and foremost, we need a franchise qb. Whether that is Moore, Flynn, RGIII, tannehill, foles or osweiler, I am not going to debate, but we need someone. Next, w need a pass rusher. Dansby Burnett and misi will be the LBs in the 4-3, while Starks and odrick will be great in the middle, but we need someone across from wake at DE. I really think we should trade down for Whitney mercilus. We need a playmaking safety, but reshad and clemons should be able to hold don the fort till next year, when we can get ray ray Armstrong. We need a playmaking TE, and I believe we should get coby fleener in the 2nd to fill that role. A smaller need is a good nickel CB, for which we should draft jayron hosley in the 2nd with the pick we get by trading down. We don’t need oline starters, just depth, as I believe Jerry will be a great RG and murtha will be more than adequate at RT.

oh yeah

We should also add a 2nd tier FA WR like manningham or garçon to make our WR corps one of the nest and deepest in the league.

Howdy Boys!

What’s up?

hey dnation

How are ya bud?

I've been getting by

School and all that. How’ve you been

Not bad. Work, work and work….and drinking. Life for me these days.

same here

Except the drinking part, bit young for that

Hey there brother!

TCP, my friend. What’s happening sah?

You know. Just some things. How are you sir?

Not bad a’tall, sir. Same old, same old here. Working on budget for home improvements, 2012 right now.

Nice. Doing them yourself?

Throw in some instant on hot water heaters for good measure.

Yeah…well some of them, anyway. New driveway tops the list, followed by gutting the main bathroom. Fun stuff.

Oh hell. Plumbing is where I draw the line. That is some hard ass crap to do on your own.

So is the electrical…believe me.

No thats easy for me. Its the plumbing that kicks my ass.

Hmmph…you’re hired!

Ok. Now I am not going to guarantee that the switch that you turn on will work the correct

light and such but for the most part you will have electricity.

#winning

LOL The key is to label all of your romex when you run it. Label BOTH ends
thanks for noticing !
Dude I know its hard. Plumbers earn every dollar they make.
thank you , and yes I do ! lol
It's such a shitty job....
smell's like money to me , hee hee

thats money not monkey !

If you are re doing your basement ,alpha can give you some... uhhh, pointers 1

No monkeys allowed in my basement.

people!

Where is everybody?

I'm right here!
why has it been so empty?
What's empty?
the thread

It’s so slow.

Its running slow for you?
no

You know what I mean. Not a lot of news or anything recently. When is Mosul going to do the mattys? I’ve never experienced them. It should add some excitement to the dull of the offseason.

Shhhh....
cmon mosul

You gotta do them eventually, better sooner than later.

There have been tons of stories put up. What are you talking about? What news are we missing?

I can make up some shit that sounds fancy and email it to you.

I mean that there are no fa signings or anything

Nothing against you guys or the site, just the NFL offseason in general. Mosul and the rest are doing a great job. But combine week and March 24th can’t arrive any sooner.

No seriously I can make up some real fancy sounding stories and email them directly to you.

I would sort of be like your own personal version of the Phinsider The Onion style.

lol, I think I'll pass on that offer, thanks

Nothing against you guys, you guys are doing a great job, but I’m just saying that I can’t wait till manning is available and combine week starts

Manning is scheduled to meet with the Colts next week to discuss his future with the team.

I suspect that if they tell him that he is not in their plans that he will ask for his immediate release. Then from that day forward anyone can sign him.

I doubt the first meeting is the last meeting

I think irsay and Peyton will meet at least 2 or 3 times before they reach a decision. Can’t they restructure his contract so they don’t have to pay the $24 million? I think irsay wants to keep him. A lot of colts fans are colt fans because of manning and I know a few that will follow manning to whichever team he goes to next.

I bet not.

Yeah I suppose they can restructure but if he is not starting then he will want to go. He has said that wherever Luck goes he needs to start so he basically told the Colts right there that its him or Luck.

My offseason plan (please critique)

Get manning
Draft.
1rst round: trade down (Cinncy) Te Dwayne Allen
2nd : first pick. De Nick Perry second pick. (from trade down) zebrie sanders
3rd : Brock Osweiler

Disagree

1 – 1st round – trade down with Cincy so they can move up and select Trent Richardson.
2 – select Tannehill with our #1 pick (this is assuming we sign Manning)
3 – select Mike Adams with our 2nd round pick
4 – ???
5 – Profit

Nah but it would also not make my blow my own head off so there's that.
Would trading down to17 get us a second

Im not good with draft pick value

Yeah for sure. Maybe even another late pick.
There are ten studs at the top, get one dont have any worries for 7-10 years!
Sign Manning... Draft OL, Tannehill (doubt he'll be there in the 2nd round though)..

Let Moore back up Manning while Tannehill develops.

As long as we don’t go all in for Flynn, I’m good

This is my plan. Why must you steal all of my ideas? Why? Tell me damn it!
LOL well if this plan actually unfolds, I'll give you full rights and royalties to it
We can split them just so long as the monies go to a good charity, like the James McKinney new car fund.
Lol for your 16 year old?
No. I already bought him one.
Yeah but a Ugo, well is not a car!
No he got a Toyota. I love my son.
And his name is Kyle not James.
Can anyone tell me if there is any decent 2nd/3rd round Ts in the draft?

Don’t get a lot of college football coverage over here.

Zebrie Sanders
Cheers.

I’m thinking if we get Manning we go 1-Reiff 2-Pass Rusher 3-Brock(if he is still there) in the draft. If we get Flynn I’m thinking 1- Ingram 2- Tackle 3- DB/WR.

zebrie sanders, Nate potter, kelechi osemele

Andrew datko and a few others. Walterfootball has a great database.

My source of choice, for sure.

Osemele is going to be a guard

I don’t think he has the footwork to be an OT.

Ew @ Tannehill, Foles, Osweiler, etc etc
Sounds like the reaction of a 12 year old girl.
Whatev's
Sorry I was giving you too much credit again.
I don't like foles of cousins, but tannehill would be an ok pickup.

Osweiler, with the right coaching, can be elite though. He had great arm strength, a compact release, good mobility for his size and will be tough to bring down. I’m really liking osweiler if we get Peyton.

He won't be elite
with the right coaching, he will easily be elite.

He has a great skill set, he just needs work on mechanics and footwork. He reminds me of Aaron in that regard.

Easily?

Then why isn’t he a first rounder? He’s a project. Projects usually don’t become elite.

Were you complaining when you came out of the birth canal?
Reports right now indicate that Osweiler's a strong workout away from being the No.3 QB in this class

And a likely first rounder.

lol. Nick's birth

“Those forceps are f’n freezing!”

Osweller reminds (on paper) an awlful lot like Roman Gabriel!

& thats funny about the forceps!

Yeah. Pay no attention to the house "little person". He has an issue that I assume is caused by a

general lack of fiber in his diet.

I have no idea what you are talking about
Well if you do not eat enough fiber............
The same was said with Mallett last year though.
Speaking of, imagine Mallett's draft stock if he had stayed for his senior season

Washington would be begging for that guy at No.6

If Pats won on Sunday...

Would he have got a ring even though he has spent the majority of this season inactive?

Yes. If he was on the roster then he gets his ring.
No they lost Justice has been served, will again if need be!

Cheaters dont go far in this world!

Not buying into it
You stick to those guns. It shows character
Thanks dad
Hes like your age. Hes more like you much wiser brother.
Sucha dad thing to say though lol
Well then you should follow his lead.
I am

I’m sticking to my guns…
Keep up lol

Is this like that time that you kept asking to see the presidents birth certificate? Sigh............
You got me on the wrong side of that one
Hold tight to your guns there nick!
No

I was born in the 80s. The Dolphins had a franchise QB and were good. The Canes were about to go on a title run. No other sports teams existed in south florida… Nothing to complain about lol

I don't believe it. I imagine a day in Nickys life is him just walking around, pointing out things and

then making a declaration as to why he does not like them.

Lol not even close

I’m the most laid back person ever. Everything makes me laugh.

We shall see.
Thats not relevant to the conversation

Thats not a prediction, thats how I am lol

I am saying I will see when me, Keith and Dave show up. Oh and we are going to show up.
Do it

We’ll get beer

Yes. Lots of beers. The plan is for beer, steaks and females. Other then sports those

are the only other things that really matter.

Opps a good dolphins game going as we click the wall size tv on!
No. We have to make it down to the stadium to join Ohio and his doings.
Think he save us a spot in his new digs err sweet!
Ohio would make room for us I am sure. Plus we will bring some

treats to the party as well.

And I'm still against picking up Manning
It makes me nervous as hell.
same here

Reminds me if Trent green or vinny testarverde for the jests

Just so damn worried that he has nothing left. Maybe I am wrong but seems like a huge risk.
Holy shit!

Me and Nicky actually agree on something!!!! Someone better take a screenshot. This isn’t likely to happen again.

The think that has impressed me with him in what I have seen on youtube

Is how he deals with pressure and doesn’t chuck it away when he hears footsteps. He waits for the last possible second. Unlike MM who had trouble not getting it away occasionally last year.

Also his mobility for a guy his size is impressive.

Trust me I'm huge on RG III, but I'm thinking it's just not gonna happen

I’d still rather draft one as opposed to signing Flynn. If Flynn is acquired and he sucks, I’ll have less patience than I would a rookie

I'm totally against Flynn lol

I’d rather not bother with a 2nd tier drafted QB or high priced free agent.. If we aren’t going big this year for Griffin, upgrade the other areas and add some elite talent, acquire tradeable assets and go for a top level guy next season. Moore is a good enough stopgap for a year

I know but i'm admittedly so damn impatient...

I felt we should have had a regime change this time last year. I feel we’re already a year behind as it is. I don’t want to already be playing for 2013 lol

Me either

But I also don’t want to waste 2+ years on another Chad Henne or AJ Feeley.

I just got my tenth straight undefeated season on madden

I wish the real dolphins were this good.

Stop playing on rookie
lol, I'm not

I’m just a great GM in madden, and I had a great fantasy draft to start off with.

Fantasy draft is the tits
yes it is.
g'night people.
Jorge Milian @caneswatch
Fox Sports is reporting that former UM coach Butch Davis has taken a job with the Tampa Bay Bucs.
Tampa has a couple former UM guys now...
The NFL is full of coaches that are former UM guys.
Dolphins have no one from UM.

None.. In a league ruled by hurricanes, we have zero… Even though they play in our stadium…
That drives me insane

Yeah. Maybe that will change this year. Who knows. I am still pissed over the whole passing on Grahm thing

by Parcells.

Yup

Theres a million examples

Well thats the one that stings the most. That kid is a flat out stud TE.
And it was obvious he was going to be.

We watched him in college, he was 6’8 with body control, speed, hands, and jumping ability… There was no way he wasn’t going to be awesome

People tried to downgrade him based on the period of time that he had played. Either you have it or you dont.
Yup

Gates and Gonzalez didn’t play much before the NFL

I think its going to be a thing you see now. College coaches looking to BB players for potential TE's.
Absolutely

Smallish power forwards and TE’s are the same athlete

If Lebron wasn’t a sissy hed be a pretty bad ass TE in the NFL imo.

Hmmm this is a bold statement & you of corse are from ohio!
It's my post so I am going to allow it.
ture classic all the way!
My superbowl fantasy wish list

Sign Peyton, Mathis, and maybe Manningham (if we can afford it)

Round 1 – Reiff (Murtha or Jerry can cover the other spot)

Round 2 – nab that FS that is dropping because of the herniated disk (I am bad with college kids’ names with out looking it up)

cont

Round 3 – Oswieller (That kid has the makings of a old school gunslinger if we correct a few things in the next 2-3 years while we have Peyton.

I am a fan of Brock

The most upside of any QB in this draft not named Luck, or RG3

I have been watching video and dare I say it...

He reminds me of a less accurate Dan the Man.

A Bledsoe?

lol

There are worse options.
Yeah but Bledsoe was a copy Lenny Dawson, hell Jim Heart, had more fire in his gut then Bledsoe!
Honestly he should have stayed at college one more year

He has confidence problems, he makes one mistake, and then gets inaccurate because he focuses on that one mistake. Thankfully that can be fixed

QB, MLB, Safety..

I just love MLB’s.. I think they’re absolutely essential on a good defense, making them look absolutely great.. (Zack, Offerdhal, Bunnocotti, etc)

why aren't we talking about bringing in Farve

he died

Wow

im so sad

His widow is looking for consoling from you.. now

Send the girl he sent the pics to first
I did, she said, she doesn't want another *small* confrontation...

she wants the monkey

No one ever saw her again

Thank you monkey.

& he is still undecided!
The coroners report sited the cause of death to be humiliation

Whether it was the ending of his career or the publication of his little pinkie winky has yet to be determined.

you told me it was bigger than the phone screen

His problem

He forgot to take his little blue pill before he took the pic.

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