Time for the next part of the nomination process for the 2012 Matty Awards The next three categories are listed below. If you don't know, the Matty's are named after the site's founder, Matty I, and are used as a way for you to recognize members of the site who keep you coming back every day.
All you have to do is list the award, and the person (or people) you feel should be in consideration for that award. And, since there were no Matty awards last year, previous winners will be allowed to win the award this year.
Remember - this is not the vote. This is the nomination.
As always NO NOMINATING YOURSELF AND NO CAMPAIGNING ANYWHERE ON THE SITE!!!!
Past winners of these awards are:
The Zach Thomas Leadership Award
2008-2009: Mosul_DolFan
2009-2010: MrMedic
The Mercury Morris Front-page Frontrunner Award
2008-2009: Little Nicky 21
2009-2010: Mosul_DolFan
The Goo Cannon Award (Formerly The Chad Henne Goo Cannon Award)
2008-2009: HuskerDolphin
2009-2010: Mosul_DolFan
0 recs | 79 comments
Damn Kevin you've won all 3??
I nominate you, finhead, and Kmb for Zach Thomas award
Duke for the Mercury Morris award
And OFF4L for the goo cannon awards
AlejandroN - February 20, 2012 via mobile
Sorry, Mosul*
AlejandroN - February 20, 2012 via mobile
Zac Thomas has to go to Keith.
The others I will have to think about.
texascowpunk - February 20, 2012
Ok I thought about it for a second. I nominate Duke for both of the others. Even though he is now an official
front page author (as it should be) his posts previous to that were the best written fan post there were even when I did not agree with them. Also they got a ton of rec’s as they should have.
texascowpunk - February 20, 2012
is there an award for the dolphins fan that drops in every now and then?
you know, cause its the offseason and all.
texphinphan - February 20, 2012
Yea it's the Brandon Marshall award lol
AlejandroN - February 20, 2012 via mobile
lol, good one!
i was gonna nominate myself, but dammit, mosul said no self nominations. so thats out the window. i am the texphinphan, and i approve this message.
texphinphan - February 20, 2012
TCP
54 - February 20, 2012 via mobile
…For ZT award
Ohio for Goo
Duke For mm
54 - February 20, 2012
I'll nominate
K-dog for the ZT award
The Beaver For MM award
And the beaver again for the goo cannon award
Phinsphana - February 20, 2012
OFF4L for the Goo.
SlotMachinePlayer - February 20, 2012
TCP for the Zach Thomas.
SlotMachinePlayer - February 20, 2012
Texas sould absolutely be given the Zach Thomas award...
And Duke is a good choice for MM award. WOuldnt the Goo cannon award be awarded mathematically to whoever has the most Rec’s?
Brantner78 - February 20, 2012
Go with Duke for the Goo Cannon. I would say Keith but he was already a FP author so Duke. His work is always excellent
texascowpunk - February 20, 2012
Im not even gonna bother with these, all the awards are going to go to the same 5-6 people
dolphinfan4lyfe - February 20, 2012 via mobile
Come on man.
texascowpunk - February 20, 2012
ehh its true, read all six posts the same people get voted the lesser knowns dont its the way it is.
dolphinfan4lyfe - February 20, 2012 via mobile
Yea, the has a point
Well there are a lot of “coordinators” and “assistant coaches” on here now. There were hardly any when the other Mattys were handed out. The other Matty’s was handed out to “non contributors” to the site.
There are A LOT more people on here that get a lot more recognition because they get articles and such on the site weekly (or whatever). I’m not saying at all they some/most wouldn’t deserve any of the awards. They just stand out more than the usual people that just comment and don’t have that inside connection to actually post articles on the front page and get there ideas/views/etc etc as recognized as those that do.
Neo - February 20, 2012
The other Matty’s was handed out to "non contributors" to the site.
Well not all, but most**-)
Neo - February 20, 2012
I can kind of see you're line of thinking.
But I also believe that people like AlejandroN and Kdog were invited to the staff because of what they wrote. Mosul never went to AlejandroN and asked him to write posts on training camp and never asked Kdog to post updates until after he was brought on board. The only reason why their featured is because of the work they did prior to. Now they’re just adding more to what they did contribute.
Still, that doesn’t take away from anyone else. I don’t think people necessarily forget about the contributions of people like Fr8, PhinnyfromItaly, or my nemesis known as CT. Any regular will be able to know what they’ve done for the site.
On a separate note… I think I should just create a weekly topic CT and I can debate on. It’s been too long since I’ve had a debate with him…
Finhead83 - February 20, 2012
Exactly. Those guys are on the FP for a reason. Mainly because they put in the work on their own and earned it.
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
Didn't say they shouldn't/didn't earn the reward.. after all I did say
@ Finhead
@ TCP
And congratulations to them.
But you both are missing what I am trying to say And getting off what I’m trying to say.,
There are a lot of articles going up and a lot of “regulars” don’t have time to read the articles and go through the comments of each or go in depth on each. They come in, read a couple of articles, maybe zip through a couple of comments leave one then leave. What they remember most is the article they read not the good conversation in the comments that was left under it.
Neo - February 21, 2012
I agree and I think we would like a lot of the other members to be more active. Be it in writing stories or
posting comments. You know just getting in to the fray with others. Hell we have had days of over 30,000 visits. We get such a sliver of that in comments. If you have any ideas how to entice more of those folks to jump in we need them.
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
Pay people per comment.....
Brantner78 - February 21, 2012
Starting...
Brantner78 - February 21, 2012
Right...
Brantner78 - February 21, 2012
Now...
Brantner78 - February 21, 2012
LOL Anything realistic?
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
Oh, realistic? Uhh...no
Brantner78 - February 21, 2012
Wow I must've been tired when I wrote that...
Littered with mistakes!
Finhead83 - February 21, 2012
We don't even notice any longer.
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
I need to find you another flavor of the month to pick on!
Finhead83 - February 21, 2012
But your the easiest target.
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
Besides I am only doing it for your own good. Driving you each and every day to get better.
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
No need to thank me. Just send money.
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
LOL
Thinking you’re our resident civil servant!
Finhead83 - February 21, 2012
Whatever. Just keep the money flowing.
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
If I end up with a drinking problem...
I’m blaming you!
Finhead83 - February 21, 2012
Ha, you can not ban me but..............
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
You'd miss me too much if i was gone.
Finhead83 - February 21, 2012
I would?
texascowpunk - February 22, 2012
You know it!
You just won’t let it show…
Finhead83 - February 22, 2012
But..........
texascowpunk - February 22, 2012
^^This
Cause I do it all the time. TBH I just stopped caring.-)
Neo - February 21, 2012
Awwww.....
We know you still care.
luvs2drnk - February 22, 2012
That is incorrect
No award has been given to anyone. Only haphazard nominations. Please nominate someone you think deserves it.
If you don’t bother with that, who will?
Strange - February 21, 2012 via mobile
TCP for the ZT award
Duke for Mercury Morris Reward and Brantner78 for the Goo Cannon award.
fin4three5yrs - February 20, 2012
Duke for goo canon
That’s the earl for those who may not know the nickname
Strange - February 20, 2012
I'll go with...
SlotMachinePlayer for the ZT. He is a leader from afar after all. I’ll also put in AlejandroN’s name in too.
AlejandroN for the Mercury Morris award. Remember, he became a contributor midway as well. I think only TCP and Lefty were onboard when the season started. AlejondroN’s training camp posts were prior to him being on board.
AlejandroN and OFF4L for the Goo Cannon award.
Finhead83 - February 20, 2012
Goo Cannon:
People aren’t considering, so I am going to put this out there. These are the people who will pick up points for the recs they have received.
Brantner78
OFF4L
Fr8Train
Neo
Enhalen
PhinnyFromItaly
Kevin Nogle - February 20, 2012
These are *some of the people who will pick up points for the recs they have received.
Kevin Nogle - February 20, 2012
Foul!
You’re engaging in exit poll manipulation.
Let the bottom feeders spew their minds.
Tunaflipper - February 20, 2012
Check out Neo's idea below.
I think he’s on to something.
luvs2drnk - February 22, 2012
Yeah no one can overlook Ohio or Fr8 for sure. The others as well. Also Beaver gets a lot of goo.
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
woohooo! I'm picking up points BABY!!
Whats my score?
Am I winning?
Whats the High Score on this thing….can I tilt?
Fr8Train - February 22, 2012
Alls im saying is that there are people that do contribute on this site whenever they can, but they wont recieve the acknowledgement nor get voted
Check out the votes, same 6-9 people that are being voted, are the same ones that used to frequent the ckc’s or are the most agreeable.
Thing is, thats all good and well, but you also have to know and realize that certain people are going to get read more than others, and the awards are tailor made to fit the descriptions of those that do.
Im all for rewarding those that put the work in, but there were some that got voted that havent posted since their ideas were shot down, or worse, were voted on name recognition.
Nicky hasnt posted in over a month, others havent written anything original since Jake Long was selected, and even worse others are being voted for simply writing an article that sideways bashed the old regime, because it was agreeable to the fan base.
Why not include awards that give everyone a shot at winning? Because as it stands, only a few will get noticed, while others feel deterred from posting. Especially with that whole “whats a fanpost/fanshot” debate that always happens so often.
dolphinfan4lyfe - February 21, 2012 via mobile
Well you like everyone else have the ability to nominate ANYONE! Literally anyone you wish. There is no limit.
texascowpunk - February 21, 2012
And the more nominations, the better!
Finhead83 - February 21, 2012
Personally
I think everyone who is a ‘contributor’ should take time and go over every the past year (or whatever) and consider everyone, (and I do mean everyone) who best deserves to be nominated and take like the top 3-5 and then let the peeps vote. It would take some time, but it would be worth it. There is enough contributors here, if they work together I think could it.
Just IMO mind you
Neo - February 21, 2012
I recommend Neo for every award just for this comment.
Brilliant!!!! And some goo for you my good man!
luvs2drnk - February 22, 2012
What? Go over every post? Every member? Every comment? I am not really sure what you were suggesting there. Either way that’s not something that anyone has the realistic time to do. This is NOT our jobs and we don’t have 40 hours a week to work on this but I bet Mosul spends nearly that on this site and his ACTUAL duties keeping the site up and running but you think we should also do this? The concept is that the awards are for everyone and as thus EVERYONE can nominate anyone. Maybe those complaining should nominate someone instead.
texascowpunk - February 22, 2012
What? Go over every post? Every member? Every comment? I am not really sure what you were suggesting there.
Calm down, calm down. TCP.
The fact of the matter is one of you all were already in the comment section or read the comments read under your article. It wouldn’t be neccessary for the overreaction you just did.
I’m sure each of you read the comments written under your own articles no? They you all could just get together and conversant over the past year who you all think was most deserving for each awards from what each of your read under your own articles. That wouldn’t take all that time.
Would it had been possible of instead of going off like this, you would actually think for a moment to see if it was possible?
By having us nominate, then vote on the say people we already nominated, you can clearly see who won by who is getting the most nominations. So the actual “voting” is a waste of time.
Or do it like we do in the US get the best candidates on a card and have a write-in option if you don’t like the option giving.
Maybe some should actually listen to what we are complaining about instead of just reading what we write is “just noise”.
The site has change since the last Matty’s and some (maybe most) people think the process of the Mattys should change as well.
Neo - February 22, 2012
I fail to follow your line of reasoning. First off I don't really write articles so no. Second I am serious when
I tell you that there are some writers on this site that barely have time to get out all the things they do for this site while still attempting to have a life otherwise. Keith for example, someone that I know quite well outside of this site puts pretty much all of his free time in to the site in one form or another. I don’t think he is about to take the time to go through his posts of the last year and accumulate data those that can not figure out on their own who to nominate.
As to me going off, I was not really going off as much as your sentence did not make sense and I had ZERO idea of what you were saying you believed we needed to do but whatever it was I was pretty sure it was not going to happen. “go over every” does not tell me anything and I honestly had NO idea where you were going with that.
Either way Mosul is about done with the whole thing and while I still do not know what he is going to do I am guessing they are pulled and gone all together so all those that feel like they were somehow getting screwed should be happy. I have already, days ago sent an email informing Mosul that I do not wish to be considered for ANY of them and if he were to continue the process to remove my name from all voting. None if it matters that much to me and I for sure do not want to be in the middle of whatever this has become.
texascowpunk - February 22, 2012
Look Neo, I understand your frustration...
But I won’t agree to go over all the posts. I just don’t have the time to do that. I do comment on many of my posts and others as well, but I often don’t stay long or I’ll just revisit them every now and then, usually to try and answer any questions or to respond to something that is directed at the article.
Even if all of the contributors did that, then we’d have people saying it’s not fair we only filter front page stories and not track the FanPosts by those not on the staff. Again, I just don’t have the time. I doubt any of the other contributors do too. I’m already visiting the site through my phone and commenting when I have time. When I’m not commenting or posting, I’m often looking at prospects, free agents and potential contract numbers, and other topics for my other posts.
I realize that you may view the Matty’s as a type of popularity contest and maybe it could turn into that, but is there really a better method of doing this? You tried to compare it for people running for office. They have staffs that are employed for just that. We’re doing it more like the sports do it for their All Star teams. We don’t have the ability and the time to try and go through piles of data. It’s just not feasible. Would your idea be the best solution? I think it would be. Unfortunately, the perfect option just really isn’t an option. Nothing here, including the Matty’s, will ever be perfect. But we’re all just bloggers trying to have fun on the site and we’re not professionals. We won’t be able to deliver perfection no matter how hard we try.
Finhead83 - February 22, 2012
I think this would create more problems than it solves
1) Will systemic bias decrease if a smaller pool of invested individuals is responsible for filtering the nominations? That seems unlikely even if you have saints running the process.
2) Will feelings of frustration increase if people sense someone deserving has not been nominated? At least now I can nominate someone if no one else has. Take away that power and I will totally lose interest in the process.
3) Who should be on this committee and will the blog really gain from them devoting more time to the Matty’s than to other things? If you spend 10 hours a week here, every moment you spend on reviewing posts is not spent on things like commenting. I would much rather hear what people have to say.
4) How do you implement accountability in the process in terms of who goes over which posts and when? People, even the contributors, go through phases of more or less involvement. You just may have your most brilliant piece missed. In an open process like this, someone else can catch it.
I agree that some people will be given an “unfair” advantage, but, this won’t resolve the issue and doesn’t seem a good use of time.
I would recommend an contributors
Nominate people you like. If more people nominate different people, than more readers will feel empowered to join the process.
Let people comment on and modify the award categories.
Reserve categories for non-contributors
Finally, I have 1 more observation: who the hell gives a flying monkey’s ass? Yes, this is largely a popularity contest. We are not voting for the gawd damn potus!
Strange - February 24, 2012 via mobile
Dude, this is just another reason why I LOVE having you as a part of this site.
You always bring clarity and say things better then I can.
texascowpunk - February 26, 2012
Wait damn it.....
I wanted to be the POTUS!! damn it!
Mom would’ve been proud, and a lot of countries woulda been pissed.
Everytime they would’ve sent someone from the UN, I’d have told them “FAN SHOT!!”
Fr8Train - February 27, 2012
I would tune in carefully to each State of the Union Rant
Strange - February 27, 2012 via mobile
C'mon now Tex.....
You know you have nothing better to do but be on here all day long. Hell, I ain’t gonna’ lie. Sometimes it seems like you are on here 24 hours a day.
luvs2drnk - February 23, 2012
LOL I stay connected most of the time with my phone but I am not actually at the computer.
I think he has no concept of how much time it would take to do what he is suggesting. Guessing from the reaction that I received from two other authors its not even something that is on the table.
texascowpunk - February 23, 2012
It wouldn't be as time consuming if it was done proactively.....
If you guys implemented what he’s talking about for next year’s Matty’s, you could easily do it. I realize it would be difficult and time consuming to do for the past year, but not impossible mind you. But I think both Neo and Dolph make good points about the nomination process. I think an independent panel (all the contributors) coming up with a list of nominees for everyone to vote on is better than the unorganized cluster we currently have.
luvs2drnk - February 23, 2012
You do not have a solid grasp obviously as to how these people work to keep this site up and
running. And when I say that I mean the actual process.
texascowpunk - February 24, 2012
And as I have stated Tex, you underestimate exactly how much I do grasp.
I know exactly how much time it takes to keep a site like this up and running. I also have a firm grasp as to how much time many of the people on this site are on this site. The problem isn’t time. It’s about need. Most of the people that would be asked to do this have the time. But they don’t feel the need to take the extra time to make it happen. And I’m not saying that’s wrong. They have every right to make that decision, and I support it. Just don’t make unjustified excuses in it’s place.
luvs2drnk - February 24, 2012
Trust me, when a writer from here sits up two nights a week writing posts till 2 or 3 in the
morning because it is the only time they have in the day to get them in by their deadline I do think it is about time.
texascowpunk - February 26, 2012
We've established you think it's about time.
But that doesn’t mean it is for EVERYBODY. I’m not saying everybody has time, but a majority do. Look, the excuse of not having enough time is the biggest excuse used in the history of mankind. That’s not to say it isn’t justifiable at times, but 80%-90% of the time it isn’t.
It is what it is. Someone made a suggestion they thought would make the process better, it was debated upon (primarily by me and you), and it was mostly discarded.
Life goes on……
luvs2drnk - February 27, 2012
I see not having time as code for not being the best use of time
Which I think is accurate in this case
Strange - February 27, 2012 via mobile
Brilliant!!!!
Whoa, WOW!! Did you just reply that to me?!
lolz
Neo - February 22, 2012
I know, shocking isn't it.
luvs2drnk - February 23, 2012
civwar for ZT
Strange - February 24, 2012 via mobile
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