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Some player has too. True leaders won't let their team lose 7 in a row at the beginning of the year.

True leaders make plays and will their teams to wins that they probably shouldn’t get. The reason this past season was such a failure was due in large part to lack of leadership, IMO.

ct1361 - January 7, 2012 reply

Not true

Jason Taylor was part of our horrible 1-15 season as well as some other leaders, i believe Zach Thomas as well

We still need a leader that is a player on D.

PotM - January 8, 2012 reply

I just think Brian Billick brings instant credibility

even if Ross hires him for 2-3 years, he will bring in quality assistant coaches. The other guys are unproven and too risky. Maybe Ireland hates Billick, but they should interview him at least. I think he’s better than Fisher.

Jcrew1179 - January 7, 2012 reply

none of the above....New Orleans' Pete Carmichael

Saints offense speaks for itself. Even if we don’t get him, we need a coach that has some creativity via offense. Keep Nolan at D-coordinator

TEXASdolfan - January 7, 2012 reply

Carmichael is not leaving

I say hire Philbin and keep Mike Nolan, i love Nolan’s defense its xciting to watch please dont get Fisher with his boring 4-3 that got toasted 59-0 by New England. Fisher couldnt even get a field goal, thats sad

Head Coach- Miami Dolphins

Panthers OC Rob Chudzinski…In my opinion it aint even close with the other candidates..

Miami should not hire a coach because of a big name, but instead hire the right fit. The NFL is now a pass first league. Saints, Packers, Patriots, and Giants all made the playoffs with a Top 5 pass offense and a bottom 5 pass defense.
Chud was the OC for the Cleveland Browns back when they went 10-6 with QB Derek Anderson, WR Braylon Edwards, and TE Kellen Winslow all went to the pro bowl and have not been back to one since. He also was the OC assistant for the San Diego Chargers last year and ranked 1st in total offense.
He also won a NCAA Championship with the Miami Hurricanes in 2001 as their OC. And now he was in charge of the Panthers offense ,with QB Cam Newton a rookie, that only scored 16 total tds last year but scored over 40 tds in 2011.
Miami needs an offensive minded coach to take this team to the next level. Just like New Orleans with Sean Payton and Green Bay with Mike McCarthy. The last time i checked both of those teams are doing well. The defense is fine if they keep Mike Nolan. They were one of the best defense the last 8 games.

KashMoney - January 7, 2012 reply

Good point on Rob Chudzinski if he's available and actually wants the job

like this.

-Rob Chudzinski
-Joe Philbin
-Pete Carmichael jr
-Todd Bowles
-Jeff Fisher
-Dave Toub

Stats407 - January 7, 2012 via mobile reply

Why Not Todd?

Coach Bowles knows what he needs to do. We do not need another college coach! I say give Coach Bowles a chance! We can keep Nolan too.

yappy007 - January 7, 2012 reply

my list goes like this

1- Jeff Fisher
2- Jay Gruden (great offensive mind, develops QB’s, head coaching expirience)
3- Pete Carmichael Jr (Just looking at the Saints offense)
4- Mike Pettini
5- Joe Philbin

JP 23 - January 7, 2012 via mobile reply

Fisher 1st wow i think not

look how Peyton Manning scorches his Titan defense year after year. We dont need sum1 else getting scorched by Tom Brady. look what New England did to his Offense and Defense last time the Titans played 59-0. Sparano scored more points with Henne at QB than Fisher did against New England. Fisher is the wise guy who waived Lagarrette Blount for a potential practice squad player. And now look wat he’s doing for Tampa Bay. He will miss in the draft for us also. Move Philbin to #1 on your list and Rob Chudzinski shuld be sumwhere in ther

If we go the Flynn road, then bring Philbin

Philbin could make the signing of Flynn easier and cheaper. Then we can trade up for the WR Justin Blackmon. I will be happy with that scenario if RG3 or Luck are not on our team this year.

Aleta - January 7, 2012 reply

I'm starting to favour this more and more.

Trade down, nab dwayne Allen, an RT and an OLB and boom, makings of a good team.

BahamaDolfan - January 7, 2012 reply

but then the problem becomes

how do we get a QB? If we don’t get one this year, and instead begin to stockpile talent, we are going to be just good enough (again) to miss on the franchise QB’s in 2013’s draft. We will end up debating whether or not we should trade up from pick 15 because we finished 8-8.

At some point, we are going to have to make a move for a QB. Better to do that sooner than later. QB has a longer “prime,” and usually takes longer to become elite than RB’s, WR’s, and everything else. So you get your QB, he gets a couple years to ascend to greatness, and in those 2 years you add immediate contributors around him. Get the QB now, get the skill players later. Dwayne Allen is in every draft. Trent Richardson is in every draft. Great offensive linemen are in every draft.

If we go the Flynn road

Kevin Nogle - January 7, 2012 reply

I'm disregarding Flynn

He’s not the answer. We’ve been down that road before.

We have had Flynn on the roster before?

Each player, coach, ect. needs to be considered on their own merits.

texascowpunk - January 7, 2012 reply

How many times are we gonna fall for this?

Random Backup A has a great game on a Super Bowl team in a reserve role. Sign him as our franchise guy. Rinse, repeat, continue to suck.

For every Matt Schaub, there are 100 Scott Mitchell’s and AJ Feeley’s

Little Nicky 21 - January 7, 2012 via Android app reply

So we should be close to making our way through all 100 of them.

Kevin Nogle - January 7, 2012 reply

LN21! I get what you are saying, but...

What im saying is about bringing a(looks like) wining combo in GB. Flynn have shown some very respecfull stats under Philbin supervision. Thats why im saying that IF we go that way(Flynn), then bring Philbin and draft another monters WR for him. Thats the ONLY way i will fell happy for our chances next year, if NOT then BRING RG3 or Luck AT ALL COST!!

Aleta - January 7, 2012 reply

Just look at the history of GB backups. Hassleback being one of them. He dint o too badly?

The point is Philbin knows all about Flynn. If he’s appointed HC and wants to bring Flynn, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

BahamaDolfan - January 7, 2012 reply

The "history"

Is Hasselbeck and Brunell, years and years ago.. I’m pretty sure both of them were developed under Holmgren. We can say look at Philly because they always have backups perform well and then trade them..
I don’t see a winning combo with Philbin and Flynn. The winning combo in GB is McCarthy and Rodgers. Philbin and Flynn are along for the ride

Little Nicky 21 - January 8, 2012 via Android app reply

Nick I do not disagree with your overall point but it does not mean that you do not stop down and at

least take a look. At some point you have to trust your scouts. If you do not then its time to clean house and start over.

texascowpunk - January 8, 2012 reply

Flynn could be

Hey look at Andy Dalton in his first year, the guy looks like he’s not a rookie. He made Carson Palmer forgettable in Cincy

Flynn is a backup...

So was Steve Young and so was Aaron Rodgers.
If you’re argument is that Flynn was not a high college prospect and drafted in the LATE rounds…. Well so was Tom Brady.
If we have a possible talented QB who isn’t getting a shot because of who stands in front of him and we can bring in a coach that knows how to implement the system that works well for him….Then why not give it a shot?

Wori - January 8, 2012 reply

Young and Rodgers were backups

So was AJ Feeley, Ray Lucas, Gus Frerotte, Chad Henne, etc etc..

Do I really need to bring out the list of late round QB’s that are NOT Tom Brady?

Little Nicky 21 - January 8, 2012 via Android app reply

That's exactly why it could go either way...

What I like about Flynn is that he has a great QB in front of him.
Just young did with Montana.
Just like Rodgers did with Farvre.
Just like Brady did with Bledsoe.

I believe in GBs talent… And I believe Flynn can be a beast.
Get Philbin in here along with Flynn and lets light this candle!!!

Wori - January 8, 2012 reply

flynn

not sure coach matters…money will matter…sign flynn..then get the te we havent had in awhile..then get 1 of these stud rbs coming out..wilson, richardson..wouldnt mind getting that lb from bc either

paul wall 1962 - January 7, 2012 reply

offense has to be the focus tho

paul wall 1962 - January 7, 2012 reply

agreed but money shuldnt be an issue, Flynn may be alot better than Henne

We set at RB, but LaMichael James in the West Coast Offense with coach Philbin does look enticing. Him and Reggie Bush can team up nice and Daniel Thomas can become our bruiser back like Benjarvis Green Ellis has become for the Patriots or perhaps a Ben Tate of Houston type of back. We need a safety for sure, maybe we can get Laron Landry or Michael Griffin

I'll say it again

sad poll

Whiner....

it is sad though lol

When Mike Mularky and Dave Toub make the top 5.. it’s a sad list lol

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Five-candidates-for-NFL-head-coaching-jobs-in-2012.html

Bunch of Mularky I agree... but Toub isn't.

Quoting the National Football Post:

"Some of you will look at this name and say "but he’s only a special teams coach." Yes, that’s true, but he is one of the best special teams coaches in all of football and has been for the last eight years. Before Toub went to Chicago he was the assistant special teams coach in Philadelphia under a coach by the name of John Harbaugh. Harbaugh has gone from being a special teams coordinator to one of the better head coaches in the league. So there is precedent in the league for that type of advancement. Also, it must be pointed out that there is a Hall of Fame coach named Marv Levy who was a top special teams coach before becoming a head coach.

During the period that Toub has been the Bears special teams coordinator there have been numerous rule changes designed to limit what can be done on teams, yet Toub’s units are consistently ranked near or at the top in the league. Under his guidance, Devin Hester has become the top return man of all time with 15 returns for touchdowns in less than six full seasons. Sure, Hester is a gifted return man, but Toub’s schemes may have a little to do with it."

good points

but it’s a rarity, not the norm, for a guy to jump from Special Teams to Head Coach. We’ll see. I would definitely take him over Mularky though.

Wasnt Cowher a special teams coach wen he got hired for head coach For PITT

My canidates:

Carmichael
Fisher
Clements
Philbin
Chud

Patssuck456 - January 7, 2012 reply

Not bad dude....

just saying

but vince young made the pro bowl both years where 3 qb’s including the reserves got injured and he replaced them. Fisher is also very conservative and was the same guy who said britt and moss don’t work on the same field. I have a friend who is a titans fan and he told me this. Go and Get Brian Billick!!

Dolphinsfan23 - January 7, 2012 reply

my top picks

1. Chudzinski
2. Carmichael
3. Philbin
We would definetly be able to get one of those

PhinPhan910 - January 7, 2012 reply

none of the above

go get tony dungy

paul wall 1962 - January 7, 2012 reply

If it wasn't for P. Manning, Dungy would be seen as one of the worst HCs ever.

His D was only ever good against the pass and he never built an OL around his QB. He also never had a very successful ground game.

if it wasn't for Manning...

Dungy still built a powerhouse in Tampa. The defense he installed and built there is one of the 3 best defenses in NFL history, and carried Gruden and a mediocre QB to a Super Bowl title.

And, you forget starting in Dungy’s 2nd year in Indy, Edgerrin James ripped off 3 straight 1200+ yard seasons, including 2 over 1500 yards. hmm..

the 2006 Super Bowl champion Colts had 2 Pro Bowlers on the OL (Glenn and Saturday), and Jake Scott, the guy many people want as a FA this year.. That OL helped Joseph Addai to 4.8 yards a carry and 1081 yards, and surrendered 15 sacks, #1 in the NFL that year..

True, his defense wasn’t good against the run (worst in the league in 06), but they were one of the best against the pass, which is what mattered because the offense gave them the lead and scored so many points.

Want to rethink this comment?

Nah, look where he left the Colts.

Let's see, The Tampa Bucs were a great D, but had a mediocre O. (See Dolphins early 2000s)

Then when he got his QB, he went crazy with passing the ball. The reason Dungy and Manning only won one SB was because of a mixture of lack of balance on the O and a piss poor D.

The Colts pass the ball to setup the run.

So, while Dungy has done wonders with each side of the ball, it was only one at a time. I’d like to have a dominant O with an aggressive D at the same time.

Crazy..

Just crazy. How many different coaches have won 1 Super Bowl the last decade, nevermind multiple?
Name a team with a dominant offense AND dominant defense. It’s practically impossible to do. Teams can be dominant on defense and one aspect of the offense (Ravens super bowl team), or be a dominant offense with a defense that is good in one area (09 Saints, defense forced alot of turnovers). You are saying Dungy is not a good coach because he a) only won one super bowl, and b) never had the perfect football team? Ridiculous. Lol you’re a funny character.

Little Nicky 21 - January 7, 2012 via Android app reply

Not many teams have Manning as a QB.

Look at what BB did with Brady. Multiple SBs and built a great team that always went deep in the playoffs.

PotM - January 8, 2012 reply

Not true

Your disrespecting a defense that featured great defensive players the year they won the super bowl such as Dwight Freeney, Robert Mathis, Bob Sanders, Antoine Bethea, Kelvin Hayden, Gary Brackett and Raheem Brock. They had alot of turnovers the year they won the Super Bowl. And their defense held up against the Patriots to make it to the Bowl

Inspector Gadget would be a good HC if we can't get Fisher. Quote from his wiki page:

He has a reputation for being an offense-oriented head coach with a penchant for trick plays. His skill for creating special packages to utilize multi-dimensional players such as Hines Ward and Antwaan Randle El earned him the nickname “Inspector Gadget”3 . Even with his creative imagination, his philosophy of being the most physical punishing offense helped the Steelers average 10+ wins a year during his 3 years as offensive coordinator.

Um... you sleep at night?