The Phinsider

go ravens

win me that hat

now, on a more serious note

Anyone think yates can be the next brady? They have similar strengths, playing styles and are in similar situations. I hope they somehow at least make it to the super bowl. If the texans can do so, matt schaub may be on the trade market if yates shows he can take over the team.

AnishB15 - January 15, 2012 via mobile reply

I saw something Bill Simmons said about that

Ohiofinfan4life - January 15, 2012 reply

Fins o'fer against the Texans,.....OFF WITH THEIR F'N HEAD !!!

Go Ravens !

we plat them next seoson and we will win.

that’s a Joe Namoth garrentee

I cant spell

Ohiofinfan4life - January 15, 2012 reply

I hope you're right ,...

that he can't spell?

I think he already proved that.

Oh, you meant about Miami beating Houston.

Kevin Nogle - January 15, 2012 via iPhone app reply

Goooo Ravens!

Nice throw by Flacco

To bad Smith dropped it

if tj yates becomes houston's starter next year

Would you put in a trade for schaub? If so, what would you offer?

AnishB15 - January 15, 2012 via mobile reply

Nicky, Enhalen and Beaver....

You can't trade the Beav

Hey wait what!

lol... they'd build you a new pond... lol

where wood it be!

By a town called, Kingwood... lol

Lol in fact LMAO!

They don't have enough money or players for us to give up the Beav!

Thx rec!

Nor the translator... hahahahaha

Well explained!

5th rounder at most

He may have been a Pro Bowler before, but he was easily replaced with a 5th round rookie.

I wouldn't trade for him at all

Agreed...

No

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

One word entry.

lol

How 'bout that Joe 'Skinny'

Fuuuumble!!

Tryin to out do me

It's easy..

LOL

Damn!

Lol

Fumble

If you want to complain about a missed draft pick

We could have drafted Conner Barwin instead of Pat White.

Really.. what a douche of a pick....

We can just complain about Pat White

Or we could have drafted Arian Foster instead of:

Patrick Turner – 3rd round
Brian Hartline – 4th round (not a bad 4th round pick though)
John Nalbone – 5th round
Chris Clemons – 5th round (again not a bad pick, anytime you draft a guy after 4th round that sticks is a good pick IMO)
Andrew Gardner – 6th round
J. D. Folsom – 7th round

You can play this game with just about every pick……… with that said I never liked the Pat White pick (the only way is if we made him a WR a la Randle El).

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/01/15/nicks-expected-to-leave-new-orleans-in-free-agency/

Carl Nicks will be a FA this offseason

Make it happen Ireland!!!

Good guard

He'll be expensive, but worth it

Put him at LG, move Incognito to RG, and let Jerry and Murtha fight it out for the RT spot.

So we can cut Culumbo

He is gone regardless

Oh thank god

I hope Sparano brings him up to the jets...

Wake will have 10 sacks in those 2 games next year.

When he was down here he took cowboy rejects

Now he gets dolphin rejects. It’s the circle of suck

Yes!

Sup guys

Hola

How's it goin Duke?

Not too bad today... how are you?

Pretty good, what do you think about Ravens DC Pagano about possible being new coach?

I don't know that much about him, but he has a good defense

I’d rather have an offensive minded HC since that’s our biggest weaknesses.

So would I

I would really want to see Chud down here. I feel like his ability to utilize and develope tight ends would help this offense going.

Plus he’s a Canes guy.

I'm hoping we go for Carmichael, but Chud would be a good choice too

either one could work wonders with Griffin.

I'd be nervous

But I would take him. Former UM guy, only been DC for one season, and has the most talented defense in football.
He’s 4th on my list

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Hey all

I’ve changed my mind. We don’t need a QB, we just need to build a flawless defense, great offensive line, get the best RB in the league, the best WR in the league, and then we can just plug some random schlub in..
That’ll be much easier to do and maintain lol

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Dammit

Why did it post here?

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

OK who are you and what pocket do you have Nicky in? LOL.

Lol

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

How ya doin Nicky?

I'm good

Probably gonna have to go to a bar for the 2nd game because fox is out

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I'm in and out, helping my son put risers on his cycle.

What are risers

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Inserts to raise the handle bars up a few inches.

Is that illeagal Hummmm!

Oh

Yeah I never needed those lol

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Just a seat raizer!

Ha

Yeah exactly lol

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Your funny!

Oh i herd u have a phone book under you car seat blinket!

Encyclopedia

Lol

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

!0 valiums!

Lol

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Heart ake!

Yates should have 4 turnovers by now

Baltimore’s dropped 3 picks. Ray and Ed too, who never drop anything

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Stupid mobile app

It won’t put my new comments at the bottom

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I dont kno if thats al there fault but i herd this befor!

You drinking? lol

Tweeting while driving!

Something. Cause he's talking crazy....

Pick

Td

This almost reminds me of Denver and Pats. game from last night.

Almost

What was on that girls face

Hey all!

Hello Beav1

Sup Duke any tunes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4zPEmRufMU

You know it

Thx pal to you being the best heres a hinny there was a sale yesterday!

Hey beave

Hey 80 sup buddy?

not much just relaxin

Want a cooly?

Have my fair share, but thanks though

No anytime just ask!

No prob, anytime

Hey bro..!

It's all aout you Pal!

Oh hai!

Hello Keith

+1 on Carl Nicks to Miami

That absolutely has to happen.

That is our #1 priority unless Mario Williams hits FA (not likely)

Yeah

And then our first-round pick becomes a BPA opportunity. I am all about Courtney Upshaw at this point. And if we HAVE to take a right tackle, we’re slinging a starting line-up of Long/Nicks/Pouncey/Incognito/Reiff. That’s just ridiculous.

That line = 10 seconds to throw

Yeah, that's as good as it gets

That's going to be an expensive line

Just Long and Nicks

everyone else would have a reasonable contract.

Yeah, you'd have two rookie contracts on that line

Which are essentially bargain contracts in the wake of the new CBA.

Have to agree

Nicks is one of the best out there

If Miami gets Nicks in FA

would would think Miam should get RGIII in the draft this yr?

If we get Nicks and a decent pass rusher in FA

He will probably try to trade up.

Who would you recomend for pass rusher Duke?

Depends on scheme

Avril would be a good choice as I think he could be scheme diverse, but he’ll be kinda pricey. We’ll probably have to draft a guy pretty early. If we stay 3-4, Bruce Irvin is a guy we should target in the draft.

Thanks just wanted to know

and it may look like we might go with a different DC do to how unhappy Miami’s is

Yep

And I would target Minnesota as a trade partner. They desperately need picks.

Maybe even package one of our D linemen in the deal

Just so we can keep some picks.

True

just a little worried about getting him though. Don’t follow college that much, but did watch the bowl game he played in and he looked good out there on the feild.

Yeah, he's unbelievable

It's just how long would he last

just look at Vick, and yes (Vick) is a different player.

Griffin is bigger and could still put on about 10 pounds without losing speed

He ain't Pat White.....

…. who died.

sup buddy?

Whats up guys?

sup 88?

sup 88!

Hello 88

Hows everyone doing?

Just chillin... literally... you?

Just opened the doors, warmer outside than in.

Good.

Expecting a snow storm.. tonight.. in the morning.
Tired of winter already.

Had the heat on last night, should be in mid 70s tomorrow.

LOL

It’s going to be -35 here in Winnipeg Canada on Thursday. That’s without the wind chill! Don’t take your weather for granted.

eh, you have handguns? lol

exspecting a new glaicer anytime soon!

Yup

A glacier the size of Hudson Bay

The Rex Ryan of glaciers

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Lmao!

And the ice cube from my drink would be Mark Sanchez

And thats how you get Montezuma's revenge

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Just short!

Lmao!

Ewwww

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Also

100% agreed on getting Carl Nicks. I think that is the only OL acquisition we need to make. Then make the deal for Griffin, and I’m good

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

What the hell?

POST AT THE BOTTOM MOBILE APP!!

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Iwas watching at the nabors house & i was thinking that, i'm not overwhelmed by eather team!

But i did note one inpaticular Wade Philups head coach, if i remember he was laughed out of the NFL can’t think of the team or teams he coached. well let me get to the part that hit me, wade is in the playoffs. A bad coach with other team, must be personel or what else could it be!

He was with Dallas

Wade's a stud D coordinator, just not a stud head coach, IMO

What is he doing in the playoffs then!

lol. He's the D coordinator in Houston, and he turned them around in a hurry

yeah i was thinking that personel has a lot to do with how wins even in the playoffs!

who!

Phillips. The guy you were talking about...

Wont happen anytime soon i was just saying any well just not any coach but yeah any good or used to be good can coach you to the playoffs!

There we go!

We almost got the whole riotous gang on board...

as long as the personel is in ones favor then anything is possible!

Houston rumblin to a score....

Got to jet guys

have fun watching the game

Have fun...

later

Everytime I hear, 'Foster'.. I think of beer....

Houston make it a challenge..!

1st down Ricky!

Boldin!

Wow. What a catch!

superdog is in the game!

Boldin is killing it

Beast!

Key personel rite there!

Leavin soon got sum more beer on tap!

Woohoo.. A party..!

kinda cheerleaders with girlfrinds & they love football!

Aaaaah.

Damn it.

No problem I'll post pictures!

Touch-back all the way!

Question

If the Ravens win do the patriots have to play them in Baltimore?

No, Pats got top seed

... and Brady has it in his mouth...

Wow. Did I say that?

LOL

Swallow all!

Don't matter to me as long as the Pasties get clobbered....

This X 10

I agree

But any advantage is welcome!

lets to houston!

Or baltimore? I don’t even know. I don’t care as long as either one beats the living crap out of the cheatriots next week.

AnishB15 - January 15, 2012 via mobile reply

Cheatriots of fire!

I don't know if it matters

Brady is doing that thing where he’s awesome

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

unfortunately

This is why I hate him.

AnishB15 - January 15, 2012 via mobile reply

It really is amazing to watch though

He almost never makes the wrong read or an inaccurate throw

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I respect the guy

Hate the team

Agreed

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Hey

Tim Dobbins with a nice play on the goal line..
I can’t remember who he used to play for

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Haha yeah...Ireland cut him right?

No it was all Parcells

Ireland was picking up Bill’s dry cleaning at the time

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

They should give it to Ricky more

Love Ricky

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Wow

Did you see Tim Dobbins stand up Ray Rice? Another ex dolphin making plays on other teams.

HawkFire89 - January 15, 2012 via mobile reply

Kind of flies in the face

of what WZB was saying about personnel making all the difference.

No offence to you WZB

Yup

Like Ninkovich last night, who was cut in favor of the almighty Quentin Moses

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Or Erik Walden

Who started all year for GB

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

But it's cool

I mean, we needed roster spots for AJ Edds and Austin Spitler

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I am sure you were screaming Ninkovich and Walden

should have remained on the team I am sure, right?

It’s not like we were the only team that cut them.

Not Ninkovich

Walden, yes. I like Walden, he was a monster on special teams, and I wanted him to get playing time at one of the OLB spots

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I could never figure out why we kept cutting good special teamers

In favor of Moses. It’s not “cutting Ninkovich” that made me mad, it was constantly “keeping Moses.”
I’m sure you loved the Austin Spitler pick..

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I guess it was that one or two good plays he made lol

As for Spitler, I had heard his name but other than that no idea about him before we drafted him. Seemed like about as solid a pick as a 7th rounder can be at the time.

Having had these players brought in shows that the GM and scouting department work well together. We have had some solid contributors from late round and undrafted FA. Some players just show nothing and need a few years to develop. Our own Cameron Wake is a prime example.

I'll be honest

I just haven’t been a fan of the constant churning of the backups. It’s not the names or the players, it’s the philosophy. It was the reason I think our special teams were so bad. Every week there were new pieces to fit into the kicking game.
Thats what I’m really complaining about, not the fact that we don’t have Ninkovich lol

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I agree

but it’s not like we are the only team, look at how often the Patriots change over the bottom of their roster.

Not to the extent we did

And they tend to hang on to most of the special teams contributors, and churn the guys who aren’t key parts. Look at how long they held on to Larry Izzo even though he never played on defense

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Everytime I checked my Pro Football Weekly app

during the season the Patriots were trying out, releasing and signing players on a weekly basis (or so it seemed). They were always so minor they were never mentioned at any of the “big sites” like ESPN, CBSSports etc. The only other time I heard about them is if it was someone like Edds.

The funny thing is we waived Ninkovich to sign Walden

(yes just found that out)

Dammit Quentin Moses!

Well between the two, I’d take Walden.

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

That girl with the Dolphins jersey is sadly the only time a Dolphins jersey has been on the field this late in this decade

Haha.. And the two 15 yr old champs were from South Dakota

No wonder we keep drafting from there

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Ava Schmueli, FTW!

We finally saw a Dolphin in the divisional round! Fins Up???

What's everybody's take on taking a pass rusher first round in the draft?

Instead of OL, QB or possibly CB/RB/WR. I’m pretty intrigued by Courtney Upshaw.

We definitely need one

And if we aren’t trading up for Griffin, my next choice is trying to trade down to acquire some trade pieces for next years QB class and taking a pass rusher

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I'm not an RG3 fan

So trading down and acquiring a pass rusher would be my personal best case scenario.

How can you not be an RG3 fan?

He’s amazing

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Well he is a RB disguised as a QB didn't you know? lol

Yeah I loved that opening line in that comment from the other thread

phinsphan85 - January 15, 2012 reply

That was ridiculous

Such an ignorant comment

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

As soon as I read it, I knew you would like it

Too much of a risk

Won’t translate to the NFL right away. He’s most accurate passing when on the run which makes him more susceptible to injury. He’ll cost a kings ransom to trade up for and I’m still not convinced he’s anything more than a gimmick QB. Just not worth it to me. The Phins priorities should be to solidify the oline and develop a pass rush. I know I’m in the minority on this but Matt Moore is serviceable enough for another season. I’m actually a bigger fan of Weeden than RG3. And I’m fully aware Weeden is 28 years old..

It'll cost a 1st, maybe a 2nd but most likely a 3rd

and some players. That will be enough to get it done.

Yeah I think it's pretty obvious you didn't see him play

But it’s cool. I mean, you only just advocated taking an older John Beck instead of Griffin..
You also have your priorities wrong. QB is the only priority that matters for us right now, because we won’t be a consistent contender without one.
The only thing you said that makes sense is the cost of trading up, but the problem there is that well be 6-10, 7-9, 8-8, and have to trade up for Barkley, Jones, or Wilson next season.

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I will never understand the "build around the QB before you get the QB" mentality

So by the time we get one, our other special players will be older and deeper into their contract and we’ll have to start over. Honestly I can’t even begin to see the other side of the arguement

phinsphan85 - January 15, 2012 reply

It makes no sense

Because in their minds, you’ll need a perfect situation, and you never have a perfect situation

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

What's the point in having an "elite" QB unless you can protect them first?

How many QB injuries have the Phins had in the last 3-4 years? I realize you and I aren’t going to agree with each other, but I’m just stating that not all fans want RG3.

CP was brittle and Henne got hurt a few times, but never had a season ending injury until this year

Last year it should have ended his season, just like JL.

But it didn't... he was able to play

And we can sign Carl Nicks and pick up a decent RT later in the draft and be fine.

Should have. It was an injury to his leg, his strong arm could have hid the effect.

I don't recall him needing surgery for it

but you’re right… he should have been benched. But not for the injury.

I see what you did there.

Oh you mean when we've had the best LT in the game?

You don’t need 5 great players on the OL before you plug in a QB. Rodgers was amazing this year with constant shuffling on his line from injuries. You need decent players and you need your QB to be smart enough to set the right protections

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Not to mention that Stafford had 5000 yards

with the worst set of OT in the NFL

Lol

Stop with all yer fancy facts lol

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I know

no one likes facts, it distorts opinions.

And yes

I have seen RG3 play. I watched the entire Alamo Bowl and thought Keith Price was the better of the two QB’s.

I also watched Weeden against Luck and Weeden outplayed Luck.

Lol

Then we have nothing to talk about if you think Price is better..
Try watching the TCU, Oklahoma, and Texas games

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Are you watching the game right now?

Flacco is playing terrible and his defence/special teams are taking him to the conference championships. You don’t need an elite QB to win playoff games. The Houston Texans improved so much this year because they drafted two awesome defenders this year and have one of the best and most underrated olines in football.

Have you been watching this DECADE?

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

snorkle.... you made me blow beer through my nose !!

thanks nicky , lol

line of the day

lmfao

Holy shit!

I just realized it’s MHTD!!

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I've watched every Phins game, every playoff game and a lot more this past decade

Alex Smith and Joe Flacco are going to the conference championships. Alex Smith. Joe Flacco.

So are Tom Brady

Again..
And either Aaron Rodgers, again, or Eli Manning, again.

Franchise QB’s do it again and again and again. Alex Smith does it once. Trent Dilfer does it once. Brad Johnson does it once. Brady, the Mannings, Rodgers, Brees, they do it year in and year out

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

But Brady and Brees were not 1st round QB's

Just beating someone to the argument. lol

Brady was an accident

Brees dropped because he’s only 6 ft lol.
But yeah if you get stone cold lucky and get a franchise QB outside of the first, great. Just don’t count on it lol

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Then there is the Rodgers argument

but there was talk of Rodgers going #1, hence why he was in the green room.

He should've went #2

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

sadness

Poo poo?

Lets not talk about that. lol

Packers and Pats

Win championships by building through the draft. They add draft picks year after year. And have incredible coaching to develop QB’s. They don’t give up a plethora of draft picks to move up 6 picks.

The Pats have had terrible drafts recently

The reason they can get away with it is because of Tom Brady.

But everyone thinks they draft amazing

when they hit, they usually hit big though (like Hernandez and Gronk)

And we aren't going to have to give up a "plethora" of picks to move up

3, maybe 4 picks tops. Maybe even less if we give up some players.

No

They win because Brady and Rodgers are awesome and they allow them to load up in the draft. New England has a terrible defense. GB’s hasn’t been much better. They aren’t winning consistently for any reason other than great QB’s. They weren’t “developed” they are elite.

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Brady and Rodgers

Were both developed as backups before becoming starters. The Pats have had some suspect drafts, but they get so many draft picks it doesn’t matter if they hit on all picks. It’s all about coaching and the ability to develop the QB. And having a bit of luck in the draft. And not giving up huge picks for one player.

and to back up nicky the Super Bowl winners since 2000

all had franchise QBs, except the Bucs…Pats (3 times), Steelers (twice), Colts, Giants, and Packers

so yea, u need a qb to win championships…defense helps

And the Ravens in 2001.......

but yeah most people just don’t get it. They’ll use the 1 or 2 examples out there instead of the 10 other ones on the other side.

The Ryan Leaf Corrolary

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

I was talking more about the teams in the playoffs

but yeah that too. lol

Playoff teams this year:

Green Bay – Top 3 QB
New England – Top 3 QB
New Orleans – Top 3 QB
Detroit – Top 5 QB
NY Giants – Top 10 QB
Pittsburgh – Top 10 QB
Atlanta – Top 10 QB
Houston – Top 10 QB, limped into playoffs with top 5 D and top 5 running back
San Francisco – Top 5 D, serviceable top 15 QB
Baltimore – Top 5 D, serviceable top 15 QB
Cincinnati – 0-7 against playoff teams and 3-1 against NFC West, were a surprise with relatively weak schedule, solid D and efficient QB play (reminded me a little of our 2008 season).
Denver – An 8-8 team in the playoffs with a -81 pint differential……

So IMO, 8 out of the top 10 QB were in the playoffs (Philip Rivers & Tony Romo being the two that didn’t……. and well Schaub, who was 7-3 as starter).

yea, and the Ravens

ravens were actually in 2000

2000 season, 2001 Super Bowl :)

touche

Weeden is going to struggle without Blackmon to throw to

He will have Marshall

For all the concerns about RG3, Weeden has just as many

such as playing in the one-read spread offense, inability to read defenses, etc. Of all the QB prospects, Luck is the safest and we ain’t getting him. Everyone after that has questions. RG3 has the most potential of everyone remaining.

So you're are basing your opinion

of RG3 on a game where the opposing defence gave up nearly 500 yards on the ground? Why throw a pass when your running game is averaging 10 yards a carry?

unfortunately I can not see either one of theses teams beating N.E.

dolfan52 - January 15, 2012 reply

Agreed

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

wut up gents, go ravens!

got here late, lol

Wow Cam Cameron looks older and different from what i've seen

phinsphan85 - January 15, 2012 reply

Who won the Texan game?

Still rooting for a Texan vs. 49ers SB.

still on

13 - 20 ravens and ravens just intercepted

Ed Reed with an interception with 1:51 left

Baltimore will win

Knew it was coming

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Is there a player that comes up with more big plays at decisive moment

on the defensive side than he does?

Charles Woodson

The only one even close

Little Nicky 21 - January 15, 2012 via Android app reply

Good call on Woodson

It seems like every time I watch Baltimore playing and the game is still hanging in the balance Reed seems to make a big play whether its forcing a fumble or making an interception.