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Miami Dolphins' Coach Search: Jeff Fisher Saga Day III

The Miami Dolphins' search for a new head coach has come down to waiting for Jeff Fisher. Fisher has been the Dolphins' top choice for their coaching vacancy, and now it's a waiting game.

Rumors continue to fly as Decision Day begins for the third consecutive time. But, today's the day. No, really. Unless he decides to wait until tomorrow. Or Sunday. Maybe Monday. But, today's the day.

Yesterday, word leaked out that Fisher has already built his staff, and just has to decide which team, the Dolphins or the St. Louis Rams, he wants. Officially, neither team has "offered" Fisher their position, but that's a matter of semantics. The jobs haven't been "offered" simply so that, when Fisher decides on a team, the other team can say they never offered it to him. It's a word game, and one that, yesterday when Fisher's camp leaked that he was deciding between two teams who hadn't offered the job, sent fans into a tailspin.

But, the decision will come today.....right?

Star-divide

We learned yesterday that Fisher's decision does not necessarily come down to money. Fisher is trying to find the best fit, and the owner that assures him that he can operate how he wants to operate. A series of tweets from Chris Kouffman, of UniversalDraft.com and the South Florida Sun-Sentinel, gave some insight to the Fisher situation yesterday:

Chris Kouffman
Schefter revealed a LOT to Sid Rosenberg. He basically confirmed what I speculated about Fisher wanting a clause in contract about LA move

Chris Kouffman
Schefter also reveals that Fisher HAS HIS STAFF ZIPPED UP. iI's done. When he gets the concessions he wants, staff already put together.

Chris Kouffman
Schefter says if it were up to Jeff Fisher, all this would be done. Fisher thought it would be done 2 days ago.

Chris Kouffman
Schefter: Fisher is a big Jeff Ireland fan, in fact if Ireland were available and Fisher went to StL, he might even hire him as his GM

Chris Kouffman
Dolphins still have a slight edge, if they work out the things Fisher wants, he's a Miami Dolphin. If not, he's a St Louis Ram.

Chris Kouffman
Fisher wants his authority mapped out in excruciating detail, right down to how many chiropractors he can bring on the road, catering, etc

Chris Kouffman
Honestly it sounds like a dude that was scarred by a bad owner and doesn't want that again. Wants everything in writing.

Maybe the most interesting part of that is the Jeff Ireland portion. Many fans blame Ireland for all things Miami Dolphins right now, including the fact that the Dolphins' can't offer Fisher the choice of GMs because they already have one. But,, Kouffman insists through a series of tweet later in the night, that Ireland isn't actually the hold up. If Dolphins owner Stephen Ross were to fire Ireland, then Fisher went to St. Louis, it's a very good possibility that Fisher would get Ireland to be his GM in St. Louis. The issue is how to work the power issue with the Dolphins right now. Ireland's contract states he answers only to Ross. But, now, Fisher wants final say on personnel. How does Ross fix that?

So, Fisher is looking for confirmation, in his contract, that Ross will not meddle in the team's affairs. Fisher did not enjoy his experience, despite the 16 years he was employed by the Tennessee Titans organization, with owner Bud Adams. Adams would dictate limitations on Fisher, that Fisher felt handcuffed him.

Fisher is also afraid of having a repeat of the Titans move from Houston. With rumors floating that the Rams could be looking to return to Los Angeles, Fisher wants a clause in his contract, especially from the Rams, that a relocation woul dnot cause him to lose seasons of a fan base and home field advantage, along with the budget cuts necessary to make the move, without some sort of compensation.

The Dolphins seem to be in the power seat in the decision process, but Fisher's comfort level in the midwest, could finally drive him to the Rams. But, today is decision day. At least until tomorrow.

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today is the day...I can feel it
... that's just gas.
for some reason

I doubt it will happen today

if it doesnt than.... NEXXXXXTT!!
The team that doesn't get Fisher just wasted a ton of Valuable Time

The next couple of weeks are very important, senior bowl, and other events, first chance to see and evaluate the draft class, be nice if we had a coach for input, besides Jeffy

Understandable

While I’m not overly impressed with his job in Tennessee, I can understand his wanting everything in writing. That’s just smart business. Which in itself is a good sign. Because that attention to detail can translate to his coaching and ultimately the players.

"The Indecision"

Fisher’s nightly primetime special series was set to air Wednesday night, but was delayed. Sources say the entire cast and crew is in place, including Host Lebron James (who said he could skip the 4th quarter of his games since he doesn’t show up st that point anyway). The only holdup… Fisher is still deciding on which network to air the show.

CBS? ABC? Fox? Yes, Fox!
…. or maybe ESPN…

lol, yes, yes and YES

How about nbc? Pbs? The CW? The golf channel?

How about ( OWN or the Emeril live ) dinner and a show call it cheap date night.
He's doing this the right way

He got burned by Bud Adams, and he wants everything in writing. Can’t blame him one bit. How many people have been told one thing when taking a new job, and then they find out that things promised verbally never happen? The last time he took on the HC position he was in his mid 30’s if my math is correct. Live and learn, and he’s learned.

If reports about him having an interest in Schotten"heist the offense"mer are true, that scares me. I’m sure Schottenheisttheoffense has a great offensive mind, but I think he’s known for complexities that end up getting you what Sanchize and the Jets put out this year. Not much.

If he wants Schotty, I don't want him.
I'm burned out with fisher

This is just rediculus every single day we hear today’s the day and literally nothing happens. Fisher make Farve look decisive
Btw my first post.

Welcome

I disagree as to Fisher being indecisive. We are all trying to connect the twitter dots, assuming we know the story. The media feeds it, because that’s how they make money.

I agree and yet its still frustrating. I know impatient as hell are we.
it feels like he is prepraring for St. Loius

I dont know why, but the Clause about moving to LA, the staff thing, and loving Ireland, all sign point to St. Loius IMO.

But the Rams are still a heavy lead to join the Raiders in LA. The NFL wants two teams there. I guess because it worked out so well last time!?!

The media has blown this out of proportion as usual. If they hadn’t reported the their speculatory timetable (first Monday, then Wed, no, no Thurs) on when he would be deciding then the fans wouldn’t have had to impatiently wait on the edge of their seats everyday waiting for his decision. The media (the worst culprit being ESPN) always has a hard on to break the news first and usually have zero knowledge of the situation. Get it right not first.

exactly
True

But the fans are just as bad. It was fans that took the story from ESPN760 on Wednesday and started posting it on Twitter, even though ESPN760 never actually reported he had made a decision. Fans started that rumor, which spun everyone into Day 1 of the three days of decision.

Then, the beat writers have all said that this time. But, the fans are fueling a lot on twitter. When you have fans that have sources (and, no, I’m not calling out Matty here….there are a ton of people on Twitter with sources now), it’s ery easy for rumors to continue to be spread.

It’s not just the media. It’s the fans too.

well the fans pay the media's bills

It is a vicious cycle. Viciously stupid.

Btw, if you leave off the e in cycle, my autocorrect replaces it with the F-bomb.

thats why i gave the fans a C

j/k…lol

C stands for comedy?
Anyone reporting fan tweets as anything other than unverified rumors

doesn’t deserve to be called “media”. And yet, here we are.

This is 100% a media invention. Fans are supposed to be consuming the media, not being used as “anonymous sources” by ESPN.

Remember when knews took time?
wow... "news"
You feeling all right?
lol

Actually, not 100% but in general fine.

Alright. Your one of if not the sharpest poster here so that worried me.
As sharp as a wooden spoon!

Whoop whoop! Sorry, too much coffe…

That went over like a lead balloon.
Yeah it was not even of that quality.
They never are...
At least your aware.
lol

Actually, not 100% but in general fine.

Can someone please check me into the Betty Ford rehab every year same crap I need out.

Please all mighty one just give us 1 offseason without disgrace and embarrassment . I’m talking to God not Ross .

Where's the disgrace and embarrassment?

Because we are waiting for our number one choice to make a decision?

If he chooses us, we got our top guy.

If he chooses STL, oh well, we move on to some other candidates.

There’s not a whole lot of disgrace there.

From previous years especially last offseason .
its time to focus on the futuer and stop dwelling in the past.
You are correct but what I am saying dates back to how Shula was handled , Marino, jimmy, Dave , Ricky and Cam.im just so darn ready for stability
The Shula years is when I became a dolphin fan. And im sure along with a lot of people on here. Do we still have what it takes to bring the next generation from across the nation to be fans.
i agree that we have all been frustrated

but how much better can we enjoy the bliss of the shula years and the potential good years ahead of us now that we know what it is like to have gone through the last decade.

Thank you that is all i want stability. I've already lost one kid to the steelers and my mother in law is brain washing another to the cowboys
Where’s the disgrace and embarrassment?

Well, his pants dropped. (embarassement)

Then, shall we say, vienna sausage? (disgrace)

lol

You wrote

“Maybe the most interesting part of that is the Jeff Fisher portion. Many fans blame Fisher for all things Miami Dolphins right now, including the fact that the Dolphins’ can’t offer Fisher the choice of GMs because they already have one.”

I believe you meant the Jeff Ireland portion, and that many fans blame Ireland rather than Fisher?

It is all the Jeff Fisher portion lol.

Stupid Jeff name.

You’re right. I wrote this incredibly fast this morning because i was late in getting it posted. And, I guess the Jeff and Jeff thing got screwed up. Thanks. I’ll fix it.

Haha I hear you. And no problem.

Has Mike Nolan been let go? Rotoworld is reporting ex-Dolphins coach is being targeted by Atlanta. I know if Fisher comes he’s gone…

they should at least interview the guy shouldn't they?

seems reasonable to me ……

He did not enjoy last year in Miami.

He wants out. He’s not going to be back next year, no matter what.

boooooooo
Despite what Nicky claims, booing Mosul will not make all of your hopes and dreams come true.
boooooo
And it for sure does not work with me.

By the way what the hell is that cat doing in your avatar?

You looked, didn't you...
I have before. I have just always wondered.
I meant, you looked at it's crotch.

lol

No. I cant stand cats to be hones.
its pleading for a playoff season
Ok. Thank you. The speculation was rampant.
You have a link for that? I couldn't find that anywhere.
Give him the power he is looking for .....

this is not a bad thing – the guy is organizing it so that he can be sucessful and not be derailed by a meddling owner a a pesky GM that don;t agree with him. This is called having a leader a real one. I don;t want a puppet i want a guy that knows exactly what he wants to do and how he wants to do it.

After he signs all his leverage goes away so he HAS to get what he wants now. This is not a bad thing. I like it – i want Fisher!!!

this is not hard – Ross give him the authority and lets get started.

But, can he legally do that?

If Ireland’s contract specifically says he answers only to the owner, how can he then give Fisher a contract that says the GM answers to him?

And, like it says above, firing Ireland could just mean Fisher hires hi min STL.

It’s a no win situation right now, where Ross, Ireland, and Fisher all have to figure out some sort of compromise.

It's a weird situation but if they all like each other that much (as has been reported) then they should have no problem working it out.
bang!!! good call TCP

I typed my answer before i read yours

LOL No worries bro!
if thats in Irelands contract then you need to bring them both in

with thier agents and lawyers and work it out.

probably would mean giving ireland more money and less power – at any rate i still say get it done whatever it takes.

if Fisher and Ireland are such buds then they should be able to work it out right?

So Ross agrees to push Fisher's desires on Ireland. If it comes from Ross, Ireland has to cave.
GET IT DONE ROSS!!!!

you were after the right guy last year (Harbaugh). i think he just wanted to stay west coast.

You HAVE to close this deal and then you are immediately exonerated for that mess and we have THE MAN for the next 5-10 seasons.

Sounds like it's pretty cut and dry, here

Like scrappy said above, give him the power he wants, write all the crap into the contract, and be done with it. If he likes Ireland as much as it states in the post, then it shouldn’t be an issue.

This isn’t rocket science. Just get it over with, already. One way or the other.

BAM!!! DONE!!!!

open your wallet and put your ego to the side – the MAN is comin’.

JUST DO IT!!!!

THAT'S IT!!!

Ross wants our cans in the seats he needs to put Fisher’s can in charge!!!

chiropractors – DONE!!
catering – DONE!!!
transportation – DONE!!!

what type of tiolet paper do you prefer Mr. Fisher? let’s get this thing done.

LOL – I missed ya on here, buddy!

thanks bro!!

good to be back – i would be way stoked if the fisher thing gets done.

As would I, but at the same time, if it doesn’t, I won’t be too upset. There are other candidates.

Lol, this is becoming a bigger circus than the Harbaugh thing....
... send in the clowns.
This is stupid.

Bring in Chud.

Chudzinski wasn't interviewed.

The Dolphins interviewed 5 candidates: Fisher who is the number 1 choice, Philibin who is now out of the question (and rightfully so, his matters make this coaching search trivial in comparison), Todd Bowles who is a long shot at best (and probably was only interviewed for the position as cruel as it is to fulfil the teams minority obligation). That leaves Dave Toub and Mike Zimmer of which I am suspecting Zimmer is the more highly valued of the two.

The team also requested an interview I believe with Dennis Allen as the Rams did but The Broncos won so both clubs had to scrap their interviews (at least temporarily). Im suspecting that if Fisher goes to St. Louis, Zimmer or Toub will be signed very soon after.

they are to start calling bowles

“rooney rule Bowles” if he doesnt get picked up by someone.

But on the positive side for him he is getting his name out there and he's a damn good coach so it will better him

and his situation in the end. I know a lot of people hate the rule but it does in fact help a lot of these guys by getting their name out there.

Well he did interview with Oakland but I am

not familiar with what obligations they still have to fulfill.

Well, they're still obliged to take the fastest guy in the draft regardless of playing skill.

It’s in their charter. But it’s gonna be tough this year

It took me forever to find the comment you meant.

It appears I have posted too much today :P

It is called due dilligence

What is the crazy rush? This is a VERY important decision. How many peoiple who are making such big career moves are jumping to the first offer. Even when you buy a car you test dirve it a few times!!
He is making sure the situation is best for him. As AS said yesterday, it isn’t a question of money. It is a question of specifying exact nature of the job and his authority. Who makes what personel move. I think he is doing the right thing. He should decide over the next few days.BTW, CHUD or Philbin aren’t bad coices either. And with Philbin, Matt Flynn may be a side benefit!

I can't imagine Ross even WANTS to get involved in personnel decisions

He’s not Bud Adams forcing VY down a coaches throat. That shouldn’t even be an issue. Having final say over Ireland is perhaps more a point of contention. I’m not a fan of the football czars….they haven’t worked out for us in the past except in Shula’s case. Jimmy, Wanny, Nick the Turd all had final say. And who’s to say if Shula didn’t have final say if we might have grabbed a title during the Marino years

his staff

yesterday i heard that he already had his staff in place. does that mean nolan and daboll are gone? i have no problem losing Daboll but i liked what Mike Nolan did for our defense. also aren’t we a 3-4 team and isn’t a 4-3 coach, how does that work

i LOVED Nolan ...

but thats not how it works with a guy like Fisher – he has his entire staff all the way together -

i threw in my 2 cents

i’ll be back when the deal is done.

peace out guys – busy work day coming up – for those of us that don’t get to tell our employer who we want to cater our meals lol!!!

one class cancelled, so I'll only have 1 today

I will post my fanshot as soon as he says what team he is going to, before anyone else gets a chance. *laughs evilly

You in the Northeast, bro? If you’re anywhere near me, that’s why you’re classes are shot…LOL

lol...about an hour and a half from Pittsburgh

Syracuse, NY here…gettin’ dumped on!

yeah it sucks
At least you're home

I had to drive to work in this shit…LOL

I'm still at school, got to drive home in this though...I'll just take it slow and easy

Yeah…do that. Be safe man.

never mind

by brother has volunteered to come get me…I’ll have to wait till 4 but at least I’ll be safe

its 75 and sunny in LA

what is this weather you speak of?

It's also sunny here but not quite as warm. It was in the 70's last week.
tough life
Well its north Texas so it could be 75 and sunny and then two days later be snowing.
it is snowing in the mountains out here,

no sunny with no humidity in the valley

We only have hills here. Our mountains are all in New Mexico.
that is what we call southern california around these parts
Or.....

Go into an empty parking lot….and have lots of fun :P

Im in the SE...

It’s freaking cold here…and windy….wish we had a snow day…nooooo instead we get a cold windy day…and still have to come into work. Maybe it’ll rain, then get really cold…

I've been following this too much...

…and it’s rubbing off on me. It took me an hour to pick out a shirt this morning. I can’t decide what to teach today. Someone help!

OK…first, take a deep breath. This happened to me yesterday (look at the thread…it got some laughs…LOL).

Second…find the nearest liquor store and grab a bottle…no no…make that 3 bottles. Raise bottle to mouth, take a drink, repeat.

You’ll be good as new as soon as the hangover wears off on….Monday.

Excellent ideas

Though I feel my principal would frown upon me leaving school to get liquored up. I’ll go ask her.
And yes, these threads have been an endless source of entertainment for me the past couple days, so I think I might actually participate today. I need to post here more often anyway…

My boss would too. That’s why paper bags are a beautiful thing. Moreover, I suggest drinking Vodka, simply because it’s odorless.

Yes, you certainly should participate more. Mosul would appreciate it, I’m sure!

What about Rumpleminze?

Smells like mouth wash!!!

but whatif were still waiting on monday

Simple – switch to a different liquor and repeat the process.

That's what 3 day weekends are for.
Yay, my first double post fail!
WOW!!! The news is out.

Jeff Fisher will be coaching for Alabama.

my hat for alabama would grow even further
I have already maximized my potential on that front.
I hear the hats in texas are rather large
LOL I meant on the hate front. All of my hats are simple ball caps. Nothing too over the top.
I hear the hats in texas are rather large
Maybe he's just glad to see you
lol
well got to head off to my last class for the week

hopefully Fisher will decide when I come back

Have fun dude....
Go get Chip Kelly

Ross could keep his GM, keep his D coordinator (who is also a Duck), and justify moving up for RG3 with a coach that could use him the right way. He wants a young Don Shula….go get him!!!

Go get Hue Jackson

that is a man we should strongly consider

Both of you go get... um... felt up by the monkey! Yeah, that's it.
i could use some jungle love
From what I've read....

That’s one of the worst things you could say to Alpha…lololol. Good luck…

Don't think he does not know what he is doing.
dont worry....

he is still in a cage in utah

Bacon is on his way.
Fisher's waiting for the call from Irsay

Saying ’c’mon down! We have Manning, we have Luck and YOU have free rein!’

CanTOo

…you are probably dead on.

Calm down everyone!

I’m here… carry on.

My bet is on TCP. I'll explain later!
How about you explain now?
I was expecting you to be the first to come with a smart ass response.

At your age, I realize you’re slow. You were #2!

Whatever. Smart ass is your game sir.
LOL

That is very true!

Just as creepy is Alphas but your also catching up on that front!

Good job!

I don't see any comparison between Alpha and I.

I’m far more civil!

He is actually fairly civil just a total perv and maybe insane.
But I am civil, not a perve, and perfectly sane!
But I am civil, not a perve, and perfectly sane!

Oh I agree.

LOL

Jacked up, man!

LOL I call it winning!
TCP...

Taking cheap shots since 1899!

Yes. I'm so good I started taking shots 71 years before being born. Top that!
I wonder how long it took you on your Abbacus to do that math....lol
Yeah I don't have to break it out for every problem.
Did you bring cookies and milk???
No he's cheap. Only water and saltines.
I wish he wouldn't have waited until Friday the 13th to make a decision

just saying…..

TheMattyI Matty I
RT @BenVolinPBP: One problem with Fisher – would probably have to change from a 3-4 to a 4-3 D >> Not big deal. MIA has the personnel.

Does the medias realize that Mike Nolan ran some 4-3 schemes while in Miami…probably not? Just talking heads and yes we do have the personnel for the 4-3.

Most of the time, when they actually are talking about his defensive scheme

I’ve seen it listed as 3-4 hybrid, or a 3-4 with some 4-3 formations.

Not too many 4-3 formations though.

Most of the 4 man fronts are in the Nickel and Dime packages but the Dolphins do implement a few different 4-3 packages and will pull it out a few times again. Also sometimes the Dolphins will be caught in a odd personnel grouping for the offensive grouping (which happens on occasion to every club), if the Dolphins are in Nickel say and the offense is in 21 personnel what the team will do is rotate the Nickel corner to safety usually Will Allen and move Bell/Jones/Culver to the depth of the Linebackers so as to form a “hodge-podge” 4-3 defense. Outside of these types of scenarios though the Dolphins will use the formation on occasion.

It should be noted though that a transition to 4-3 shouldn’t be too difficult because both Langford and Soliai are free agents and Outside Linebacker is a critical need anyways. The transition will be much easier for Starks and Odrick and the Dolphins need to address needs no matter which defense is chosen.

We aren't the Bills though for example a true "hybrid" defense.
This paragraph could use some editing
Maybe the most interesting part of that is the Jeff Fisher portion. Many fans blame Fisher for all things Miami Dolphins right now, including the fact that the Dolphins’ can’t offer Fisher the choice of GMs because they already have one. But,, Kouffman insists through a series of tweet later in the night, that Fisher isn’t actually the hold up. If Dolphins owner Stephen Ross were to fire Ireland, then Fisher went to St. Louis, it’s a very good possibility that Fisher would get Ireland to be his GM in St. Louis.
Also, WhoTF is Schefter?

He’s another reporter.

So now we’re talking about retweets of second hand rumors that may or may not have any legitimate source as if they’re indisputably true? Come on, man!

He has a site to run for fans that are hungry for information. He can only work with what is available.

How about you take the high road and give the man his props for all of his time and hard work instead of throwing out some cheesy “Come on, man!”?

LOLOL. true, true.
Refresh your page.

I already updated it. civwarbuff pointed it out above.

is it a bad thing that for the last week or so,

I have been going to the bathroom at my job and logging onto the Phinsider from my phone just to see if there is any breaking news on Fisher? My boss must think I have IBS or something. Matter of fact, I’m in here now. Probably be back in an hour. Crazy? Or just a dedicated fan waiting like a child on Christmas eve hoping Santa Ross delivers my gift, rather than the Grinch Kroenke taking it from us. I am weird-sorry.

Same here.

I think my students will be doing a lot of on-their-own activities today. Stupid Fisher…

Hold a paper airplane making and throwing contest

haha…Although I don’t know what level you teach at…so that might not be a good idea

High school science

But unfortunately, not Physics. I’ll see what I can do though…

hahahaha...glad im not the only one. feel a bit better about myself...lol
via Omar...

“I know the Dolphins are in a holding pattern with Jeff Fisher, but I’ve been asking around and from what I’m hearing a good fall back plan might be Hue Jackson. He did a pretty impressive job with Oakland despite the injuries. He already has a staff. BUT, it does trouble me that the Raiders were one of the most penalized teams in the NFL.”

Hue Jackson wasn't interviewed though.

Can we please stick to the candidates who were interviewed. If Hue Jackson, Chudzinski e.t.c. were serious considerations then this FO should have interviewed them by now. They haven’t essentially ruling them out.

I don't know. They were busy interviewing guys until they got the feeling that Fish was for sure headed to Miami.

I think for some reason they still think that. If for some reason he gives them the Heisman pose then I bet they open the interviews back up. But then again this is all just my guess.

I disagree. The Rams continued with their interviewing process showing me that they

are not yet comfortable with the possibility of Fisher electing to go to Miami. If Ross and Ireland are not comfortable with the candidates whom have been interviewed (and those who are possibilities behind Fisher, ruling out Philibin) then they made a huge mistake in stopping the interview process.

I believe that Hue Jackson and Rob Chudzinski are both out of the equation along with Dennis Allen who the media was reporting the Dolphins may interview before the Broncos victory over the Steelers because the Dolphins have made their decision behind Fisher between Bowles, Toub and Zimmer. If they haven’t then they deserve the criticism that will follow this.

I think and hope you are wrong.
I dont know which part you hope I'm wrong about?

I hope and think that I’m right because this is going to look very bad if I’m wrong.

As for the other issue, saying that we can rule out Bowles (for conversations sake) are you not comfortable with Toub and Zimmer as candidates?

That if Fish says no that they are done looking.
So are you not comfortable with Zimmer and Toub?

Or do you just want a broader search?

Broader search. I want Chud if not Fish.
if Fisher goes to St. Louis I am completely content with Mike Zimmer

I think he is very good. I would shocked at Bowles and surprised with Toub. I would be fine with Chud and with Jackson but I think if it isn’t Fisher it will be Zimmer.

I would be fine with Dom Capers too or...

Dennis Allen or even Todd Haley or Jack Del Rio

But it will be Zimmer IMO.

They had an interview setup with Mularkey on Wednsesday he took the Jags job so. Interview takes two day so. Chud was interview for OC job last year. An yes Nolan runs a Hybrid 3-4/4-3.
Correct, Correct, Correct and lasty incorrect.

The Defensive scheme under Nolan is a 3-4 scheme that implements a few 4-3 packages. Not even close to a hybrid defense. Not even close.

Go watch the Bills play and you will see a true Hybrid defense.

IMO. He doesn't have the secondary to play the Correct D he wants.

Here is a good article about who/what/where on the Hybrid. As he says square pegs into round holes.

http://www.nfl.com/kickoff/story/09000d5d80a518b3/article/hybrid-defenses-popping-up-across-the-nfl-

Kirwan is pretty sharp by the way.

I know.

Doesn’t mean he can’t be though. I’d still prefer Chudz over Jackson though. Miami stopped interviews when they felt more comfortable with Fisher.

Now via PFT...

“Despite denials, the Jeff Fisher Leverage Game is real.”

LOL I like how everyone has their own rumor and now they are starting to point fingers at the other guys version of the rumor.

“No my rumor is the correct rumor and his is wrong!”

LOL Indeed.

I have no idea what is true anymore, but I would’ve expected at least a little bit of a leverage game. Happens all the time.

I think that Fisher is a classy guy and is not the type to play games but will do what he has to do get things right

after getting screwed around for 17 years. On the Phins side I would guess that Ross wants nothing leaked one way or another until its final after last off seasons PR nightmare.

Adam Schefter continues to lose credibility. The guy is very contradictory with his story.

You never know though, these guys could get false information from their sourcees

Well, then they are not “sources” at all. Here’s how the media works, throw enough shit on the wall to see what sticks and if you happen to be right you broke the story first. 9 times out of ten they are wrong, at any other job if you were only good 10 percent of the time you would get fired.

I would not want Hue Jackson and quite frankly would be pissed if he was hired as our head coach. I still can’t see how we are not linked to Chudzinski with him bringing Mike Shula over. I know they interviewed him last year for the OC job but I can’t see how that would be enough to hire him as a head coach, unless that interview did not go well.

Ireland asked if his mother was a prostitute.

Meh. Shit happens.

That’s what he said, according to my sources.

I think MIA has better personnel for the 4-3, we have great D-lineman and 3 Solid linebacker
Can't we use stem cells to rebuild Marino?
And Shula!
... and Rachel Welch.
Mmmmm.... rebuilt hot chicks

mmmmmm

Enough!!!

1. Hire Hue Jackson as the Head Coach.
2. Hire Steve Spagnolo as DC, and switch to the 4-3
3. Draft Coples with our 1st round pick
4. ????
5. Profit

i agree with #1
I prefer number 4

You don’t like #5?

i work in mental health

we dont know what that is

5 is crucial but I liked how decisive 4 was.
It all sounds like #2 to me.
Anything happen last hour
Well Finhead showed up wearing one of Nickys dresses which was of course way too small so we had to send him home to change.

Okie dokie…glad I have that mental picture stuck in my head now. Thanks mange! :)

I know right. Imagine how we felt?

Also Alpha offered to drive him so they left together.

Hope they make sure they dry cleaned it...instead of leaving a white stain on it for investigators to come back to...lol

I love how the media knows nothing on this topic. The Miami media is totally in the dark. Where are all their so called sources, and if they don’t have any why the hell are the working for their respective newspapers?

My sources say you’re onto something, here.

my sources say

meow meow meow….which roughly translates to feed me and be gone.

In the past our FO has been fairly good at not leaking information so its possible thats going on along with Fishers

people not leaking anything. Sometimes the reality is there is nothing out there for anyone to report.

And yet, they continue reporting it.
It's their jobs so they will take scraps of whatever and try and make stories of them.

Why do fans want Hue Jackson he ran an undisciplined team in Oakland? He traded the farm for Palmer and couldn’t get the one win he needed down the stretch. No Thanks on Hue.

one season

8-8, with worse talent that we have

Absolutely correct. Look at his roster, and tell me how that team won 8 games, without McFadden for the majority of the season, and without a quarterback until Palmer arrived.

i think Hue would be a great option for us

Because he has a history of developing QB’s – for example, he took Carson Palmer from a middling Quarterback out of high school to a Heisman Trophy winner at USC. He has a good history of doing this with other QB’s as well (John David Booty, to name another).

That’s your reasoning? Glad you are not doing the interviewing.

Glad you know how to use the reply button.

LOL That was funny!

Thanks, sir! I resisted as long as I could.

LOL Yeah it is important in a thread with as many comments.

Any 3rd grader could do it. :)

my real reasoning (reply fail by the way)

is that he has not had enough time to develop an atmospher of discipline in their locker room. He is still working with Cables rejects and did have the team going in the right direction. He makes bold moves and stands behind them. OAK made a very big mistake in firing him.

Ok, that’s fair. I don’t agree but it’s ok reasoning.

yay reply success!!!!!!

i can easily understand why many would avoid him too though. I just dont thisnk that he has had a long enough chacne to make the splash that i believe he is capable to make.

John David Booty….really?

reply button!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
its right here_______________________^^^^^^^^^^__________________

Get over yourself man, so I didn’t hit the reply button. You know who I’m talking to. Really exclamation marks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s lame.

It is pretty annoying when people do not use it and we all razz each other around here.

Don’t be so uptight there wild man.

it si also important to the continuity of the coments

how is anyone going to know what the hell you are talking about if you are not more specific with who you are replying to.

True. Hopefully he got the point and does not take such a little thing so personally next time.

Whadaya yellin' at?!?!?

Yeah, exactly my point. What was he, coming out of high school? What was Carson Palmer, coming out of high school? Look up both of them, and tell me how they were rated. Let’s also not forget he developed Matt Cassel whie at USC, as well.

Wow can't believe there's still no decision yet....
OmarKelly Omar Kelly
@AdamSchefter: Bucs received permission to interview Bengals defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer for their head coaching job"Now I’m concerned
I really hope that if a decision isn't made today, that the FO go ahead and start trying to get someone else in.

Otherwise…we run the chance of losing out on a lot of coaching options. This feels like playing poker….

playing poker... yes.

It hurts going in.

thats what she said.....
Why oes that concern u?
You talking to Omar?
Oh did Omar say that? Why would he be concerned. No way I want Zimmer here
See you all in a bit

I’m going to go to lunch and play in the snow.

Don't eat the yellow snow.
Or....brown snow
Yeah that's not snow.
Yea...I realize that now...AFTER the fact....sheesh...y'all could have warned me!
Since when did you think you could find kernels in snow?
Is it hard and lumpy? Or kinda like a coffee stain?

H*ll with that…it’s friggin snowing like crazy…waiting a bit.

No yellow snow…bahaha!!!

Oh man...you guys have got me rotfl....

people are looking at me funny

Heres a better rule of thumb. If its on the ground then do not pick it up and eat it.
TheMattyI Matty I
RT @schadjoe: Arkansas QB Tyler Wilson announces he is STAYING in school >> Damn.
Son.............. of.................. a.............. bitch!
If you can't get the top two do you draft BPA this season and then go after you QB next?
I'd say yes.

Unless they want to try and trade down a bit to land Tannehill.

Or Brock Osweiler...
Not at 8 or 9...
No... down a bit, like you said.

[your at my belly button.. so down a bit]

It's why I'm not a GM... that's a tough place... the draft.

BPA? Regardless of position or need?

Here's the crazy thing....

After Cleveland, what team in front of us needs a running back? Richardson, as crazy as it seems, could fall to us at 8 or 9, if Cleveland takes RG3 with their pick.

If you want BPA…he’s it, period.

what about daniel thomas

As I’ve stated since the draft, I’m not sold on a kid that has had injury/fumble problems since college, and it proved true (the injuries, I mean) in his rookie season. Plus, the kid runs a 4-ever 40. I want speed, and Richardson, as big as he is, can fly.

I still think the kid is a good change of pace back, if he can stay healthy which is a big if

You hit it on the head when you said “if he can stay healthy.” I don’t put stock in RB’s that have an injury history at such a young age. It worries me way too much to put the fate of the franchise in his hands.

Let’s also not forget that Bush will be a FA after next season, so we need to bring in a RB anyway, just in case he’s too expensive to sign, long term.

He had an abbreviated offseason. With a full offseason we will get him healthy and rookies usually learn to take care of themselves better their 2nd season. Hell Vontae Davis and a plethora of other players were hobbled with hamstring injuries. We don’t need a back we have far too many other holes that should be filled first, like RT.

Fair point RE: Thomas

Would it be fair to say that he would be the best player available at the time of our pick, assuming that Luck, RG3, Blackmon, Kalil, Coples and Martin may be gone at the time?

It’s the question of draft philosophy. Would you reach on a RT at 8 (or 9) for the sake of getting a RT, or would you draft the BPA? Also – would a trade be under consideration at the time of our pick, if Richardson is there?

It’s not so cut and dry, mr1313…you need to explore all the possibilities and be flexible in making your decisions.

…by “your decisions,” I mean the Dolphins, not you.

wiat mr1313 isn’t in the Dolphins fo…f**k

i agree with mr1313

lets give DT a full offseason and see if these injury issues fade away

I didnt know that Reggies contract was up so soon. I think you might be right. either way I dont see Cleaveland passing on him

Yep…it’s only a 2 year deal for $5 million.

They had better keep Bush here

I really really really like watching him.

Or a good trade option for a team behind us that LOVES him

I’m fine with this idea as well. I wouldn’t mind trading down and picking up another 2nd round pick, along with others.

lets start the draft 2 qbs in the secomnd round bandwagon

its a cant miss!

via Michael Silver...

“I believe jeff fisher and the #dolphins could—COULD—get done very quickly. But it could also blow up and land him in St. Louis. Stay tuned.”

“I think it’s the dolphins’ ‘game’ to lose with fisher. But they may very well do so.”

yippie

so if he goes to st we f**ked up

So basically this translates to the following:

“I know absolutely nothing.”

Isn't that usually how it turns out to be?

Give them 10 minutes to write after he signs and they’ll sound like they knew he’d do it all along.

Without question, 100% correct.

Breaking News!!!!

My wife made me turkey sandwiches for lunch! Stayed tuned for further details as they break.

Excellent. I will be right here waiting for further details!
Handjob under the table is the rumor.
Sources confirm

This possiblilty is DEFINITELY NOT on the table. Or under the table. Or…whatever…

lmfao! You either asked or she read the rumor...

It’s probably her that wrote that post…LOL!!

Based on past dealing with this source...

I can usually predict the outcome of those types of events :-)

Sources indicate

The cheese is sharp cheddar. This remains uncomfirmed at this time, but is thought to be the likeliest possibility.

She chose cheddar and not swiss? Bold, bold indeed!
Turkey?

I like it when they squat and gabble.

Personally…I enjoy the nap after the turkey. Triptofan is my friend.

Now you need to decide what sort of cheese to put on it. Mayo or no? Lettuce? Tomato? Dude…Fisher’s decision is going to cause you havoc today.

Well, sources have confirmed... no mayo for NJ13 is coming.
The sandwich staff is assembled.

Turkey, Cheddar Cheese (now confirmed), White Bread, Mayo, and Mustard. Questions remain as to why Tomato was not included.

My sources indicate Tomato was not named in the negotiations due to not being in the fridge at the time. Produce fail.

Wife is not returning calls

No explanation seems to be forthcoming. Dealbreaker?

Well... was the bread foreign or domestic?
Generic Store Brand

The thinking is that shoring up meat and cheese was the priority, and that the sandwich could get away with a stopgap at the bread position. Whole Wheat was reportedly available, but was asking too much.

Ah.. so no french, sour dough or amish kind.

Good. Then it wasn’t jealousy why she was not returning calls.

lol

Who buys imported breads? Who are you Alpha?
Cuban bread is fantastic
It is but seeing as more Cubans live in Dade county than in Cuba I don't consider that an imported product.
.........Good point
It coulda been french bread....
That was made in France?

Do you also consider french fries and belgian waffles imported products?

only the best
But what beer to serve?
Something imported

Most American beers suck.

the champaign of beeers of course
I still have my bottled Fest beir from Germany....mmm soooo gooooood
hey whats the difference between belgian waffles and those mickey mouse one?
dutch potatoe bread
He got spoiled in Germany

You need to explore the possibility of alternative menu items, at least.

thsi is what Fisher is driving us to...

but hell, at least we are having fun and bulding commroderie.

Heh, yeah

And I’ll leave the thread alone…for now…

Presser Scheduled

For 5pm EST. Suggestions for questions should be listed below.

wait did something happen
Yes.

Turkey Sandwich was selected as the new lunch choice for NJ13.

wait are we still talking about that fing sandwich
This is

UN F—KING BELIEVABLE.

Decision today. ANNOUNCE A PRESS CONFERENCE

ANNOUNCE A FREAKING PRESS CONFERENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I’ve listened to the entie Pink Floyd the wall album three time today while i’ve been sitting here waiting

My sources are twlling me that Jeff Fisher has been taking a giant shit.

We will get his decision once he finishes, whic could happen in 1 minute or in 10 more days. You never know with General Tsao’s Chicken.

No not General Tsao's Chicken

It was the burritos I made last night

My homemade burritos from last night.

sorry about the double psot

instead of worrying about fisher coming in and changing the defense

Why hasn’t Ross given Mike nolan an interview for HC?? Thought he’d be up there on the list…

Time for Plan B

I think it is time to move onto Plan B for a new head coach. Do we really want a coach who can’t make a decision? I don’t!!!

Hey guys, I'll be in and out all day

Any news?

well someone made a sandwich
Oh, we made that sandwich yesterday

Its probably moldy by now

Tannehill has broken his foot. He might slip to 2nd round. Interesting...

Yeah…combine is in question, but he should be OK for his Pro Day.

is Tannehill 28 I heard that someware and i dont want to check
I think that's Wheeden out of OkSt
No, thats redden
Sorry, typo

Meant weeden

I should explain

If there names arent luck, RG3, Barkly, or too a leeser extent Jones I havent paid attention too them

Well Luck and RG3 will be gone by the time that we pick and Jones and Barkley are headed back for another season.
Trust me I know
Trust you? I just met you.
mmm hmmm...wh hasn't heard thatttt line before...haha...I kid I kid
I haven't

im sad now :(

Weeden will be 29 in Oct.
How old is Flynn?
26, turns 27 this summer.
Tannehill is 23. Will turn 24 before the season.
And he has a pretty high upside if he were to sit for a year.

IMHO.

PhinNation PhinNation.com
Per @SI_PeterKing ‘s GamePlan column: Sources say Fisher decision today and "My money’s on Miami. We shall see."
wow we never heard that before
Well sure SSDD!
I've got a feeling this one is for real

I have a feeling that your feeling is just gas, after eating your sandwich!

No...Im pretty sure that's Alpha....doing his...ummm...you know....
Turns out you were right.

My bad, carry on with the waiting.

Was it a terrific fart?
Won't be using open flames

in Chemistry class today…

It'll be fun for those in class..

to try and decipher the composition of said fart….

I just think he wants Robert griffin. Can also bring in OG Scott and FS Griffin. Maybe TE Carlson too.

Ross wants to spend big. Perfect for Fisher.

Fisher of men...
Ha! I just got a call from someone that I use to work for with the Rangers and they need help with the fan fest this

weekend. EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!

Nice! Parrrrtay!
Yeah. I will be working and helping out but it will still be cool to be down there.
you must live in Texas then

Sherlock Holmes bi^ch

Yeah pretty much.

Can you ask them to trade Nelson Cruz to the Braves in exchange for Jair Jurrjens, please? Thanks so much…LOL

No. Probably not. Nelly needs to stay in Arlington where he can continue mashing the hell out of the ball.
Stop the insanity!
But...... but...... we like TCP.
Just because I tried to kill you that one time does not make me insane.
lol... yeah.. well.. it scared the crap outta me.

But, I luv ya now. I understood why.
I won’t crap on your front lawn anymore….

LOL Fair enough. I will go ahead and unload the gun. I sure spent a lot of money having your

name printed on each bullet for nothing.

Anytime I see someone say TCP...I think ICP....

Then I think clowns….then I get scared

Was this you as a baby?

great....now memories are flooding back...I wonder if I hide under the desk if they can get me???
This just in:

I ate three Ho Ho’s.

do we have confirmation
In about three hours, they will come out in the same fashion they went in.

This will be “firm” confirmation.

How do you know it will be firm?
A feeling way down deep in my gut... lol
there ya have it folks...

a new meaning to the term deep throat

Dude... I was talking about my intestines recomposing the ho ho's into a turd.

What-the-hell..!

hahaha...I know...Im just givin ya a hard time!
Link or photo or it did not happen.

Been going down to TJ, Mexico have we?

No. Just down. =)
well im out

peace bi^ch’s

Okay, back. Decided to hit up Arby's for lunch
Nice. Can you get around ok up there?
Sort of. It's better than yesterday

I f’n hate snow.

Yeah. Its like 65 and sunny here today.
Smh. I wish we had something similar

Oh, and LSU monster receiver Reuben Randle declared today. Takers?

You tell me.
Well, I am really into the idea of using our 2 on Arizona QB Nick Foles

If he’s not there, maybe we look in Randle’s direction.

At least your not in Alaska right now. They are getting totally screwed.
lol. Yes, but I'd have to kick my own ass if I lived in Alaska.
True. I cant imagine what you would be doing there anyhow.
Hating life, I imagine

My brother’s psycho ex-gf lives in Alaska right now … and she put on some weight to combat the chilly temps.

Wow. I guess you do what you have to do.
I think she chose to attend college in Alaska. Not sure why anyone would want to go through with that
That is weird. I have never heard of ANYONE going there and I know people that have studied

all around the world.

Have you seen their Winter Fest???

I saw it on the Alaska State Troopers show my wife watches….nothing but booze and ….other…things..of a good nature….with the opposite sex

Sounds amazing
Yea...it actually looked pretty cool. Snow mobile races...big ass beer tents...
I imagine if you live there you pretty much have to stay drunk all the damn time.
I was stationed in Alaska for three years.

Snowing like hell here in Syracuse.

Especially after that slick Arby's lunch... lol
You hold your tongue. Lunch was pretty good!
lol... just what sandwich did you have?
The philly beef angus or whatever it's called
What would you put on your Mt. Rushmore of fast food?

Go …

Taco Cabana, Chic-fil-A, Taco Bueno, Arbys, Whataburger
Hmmm

I’d go with Sonic, Culver’s, Chick-Fil-A and … I don’t know.

I have a feeling that fourth spot is reserved for Del Taco ... whenever I get around to trying it
Got to fit Derwienner dog in there someplace
Sonic is a solid choice. I think we have Culvers around here but have never tried it.

Also Pollo Tropical in Florida is amazing. I freaking love that place but did not add it as I can only go there on vacation.

Wendy's, Little Caesars, Taco Bell, Boston Market, Zaxby's or KFC
I am disappointed that anyone would add Taco Bell.

We have like 6 different fast food Tex-Mex places and Taco Bell is so far at the bottom.

Now go sit in the corner and think about what you have done!

lol. That is so mean

lol. I will add Del Taco to my list as soon as I try it. I’ve heard it’s the balls.

LOL Not mean. Just educating him. Its tough love for his own good.
Truth

A moderator and educator. Mosul was wise to bring you aboard. You’re like the VP of Player Personnel on the Phinsider.

LOL Wish everyone thought so.
I'm in Augusta, GA. Taco Smells is about as good as it gets for fast food around here of that persuasion
lol

My dad calls Taco Bell “Crotch-o Bell”

New Taco Bell Slogan

Gotta make a run for the border bowl.

TB is a fantastic fix for the hangover

Pedialyte + cheap mexican food = great relief. You have to deal with a small case of the green apple splatters, but it’s very much worth it.

That is very sad indeed.
OMG that one is so damn good. Excellent choice grasshopper.
Yes, thank you. I also support the cravin' chicken sandwich, too
Arbys is freaking great.
That sounds good, I just have a pbj for today.
Nothing wrong with that
KohneysKorner Marc Kohn
My information from last night and this morning hasn’t changed. Ross has big call to make — does he hold, fold or bluff? It’s on HIM 100%
Honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way

According to this info, we won’t be passed on because we’re somehow viewed a destination less desirable than freaking St. Louis.

different spelling though.

Its over. Fisher to the rams!

Fisher agrees with RAMS

on ESPN right now

Yep!
and ... that's a wrap.

I feel a strange sense of relief right now. Now let’s go out and hire a coach who won’t make us wait a fucking fortnight before handing in his decision.

Yeah I agree

I still feel Ross should take his time… Don’t go into a “panic hire” now

Yes a few more interviews than make a choice.
Somehow I'm actually happy

Hopefully we can trade up with the Rams and interview Chud PLEASE!

Actually not "happy" but more like "relieved"... At the fact we can finally move on
Congrats to the Rams and to Fisher

best of luck.

Fuck 'em. I hope they continue to be terrible

Sorry, but I figured the level of vitriol toward Fisher would probably escalate if he chose STL over Miami.

Hopefully he'll be forced to move to LA next year haha

Hope he has all the control he wants so he can draft his team into the ground.

I also sincerely hope we beat that team's ass when we play them this season
Anyway, who do you guys think is the best candidate for our hc position?
I honestly don't know but Chudzinski seems to be the popular choice
Carmichael...
In order..

P. Carmichael
Hue Jackson
Chud

Keith call me when you can!
I'll be leaving here in a few mins, so be ready!
TheMattyI Matty I
RT @realfreemancbs: Dolphins source to me: “Jeff Fisher used us.” Here we go! >> Time for Dolphins to try and save face. Ugh…
Not heart broken

He never seemed to want to come here anyway. Not looking at this as a big loss at all.

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